Re: OT: Public libraries

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Sujet : Re: OT: Public libraries
De : user (at) *nospam* example.net (bitrex)
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Date : 22. Apr 2025, 05:58:29
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On 4/21/2025 11:42 PM, Don Y wrote:
On 4/21/2025 7:47 PM, bitrex wrote:
On 4/21/2025 8:23 PM, Don Y wrote:
We've been discussing the long-term relevance of public
libraries and the funding thereof.  It seems like this is
something that will likely be fading from municipal budgets,
largely from disuse and ease of other entities picking up
any such use that is shed in their absence.
>
Six new town libraries are either under construction or recently opened in Massachusetts, at a total cost of maybe around $200 million, so maybe people in different parts of the US tend to value different things..it something municipalities around here do continue to spend money on.
 Do they generate traffic?  Or, just interest in spending tax dollars>
We have 27 different branch libraries, here.  Serving a population
of about 500K -- so 15-20K patrons (on average) per branch.
She found townspeople will turn to a good library for just about every service under the sun, even ones that aren't really appropriate, like resume-writing and tax preparation! "Sorry we don't do that, here."
Being a town librarian in a well-trafficked library is a bit like working a generalized help desk, where people look for support with all sorts of life-problems, often but not always related to information gathering. She found it easier to think of herself as some kind of "information broker" in the public service in that role, rather than as someone who specializes in just books.
For better and worse, on bad days being the help desk can be as lousy as any customer tech support job.
But along those lines large library science conferences these days seem to spend more time talking about AI than they do about the printed word.

The branches are sited in areas of wildly varying demographics,
wealth, etc.  *MY* branch is always empty.  No one sits to read the
daily newspapers flown in or browse the stacks (why not store the
books in less expensive space?).  Perhaps half of the workstations
are in use at any given time.
What less expensive space is there to store books on a timescale of 50-100 years than public property? The capital is committed, no landlords to endlessly raise rents. Over that time scale it probably amortizes out to pennies per sq ft/yr

Branches in the less afluent areas often see more use (of the workstations).
(You'll also find hypodermic syringes in the parking lot and people
sleeping outside.)
 But, the traditional role of a library seems to be preverted into
one of a social gathering place (for "activities") and internet
cafe.  None particularly require a "library" for those purposes
(e.g., the local park district also offers activities as well
as special facilities for them -- potter's wheels, kilns,
tennis/basketball/pickleball courts, exercise machines, meeting
rooms, etc.)
Modern librarians don't tend to see that as "perversion" it's part of the plan. THE COMMUNIST PLAN!! just kidding..
<snip>

That differs from what we see, here.  The trendline has been steadily downward
(from personal observations as well as comments from the librarians that
work at the local branch)
Ya, towns tend to spend money on what their residents and their governance values. I believe most everywhere the public library system tends to operate under the purview of the town/county/municipality government, so if it sucks for reasons other than lack of funding, you know where the buck finally stops.
Cases of nepotism and mismanagement of town libraries happen even in enlightened MA though, and there is drama and in fighting like any other industry. Ineffectual management probably gets the boot quicker in wealthier towns up here compared to some other places, though.

Maintaining a 3D printer would require someone on staff who could do so.
They have to contract for maintenance of the public PCs -- even the
terminals that are used to check out materials are unsupported,
locally:  "The computers are down.  We have to record your library card
and the 15 digit identifiers of any materials you are checking out
ON PAPER (and then reenter them, manually, when the computers come
back online)"
 Tell your girlfriend not to move west (or, MARRY her and ensure you can
support her!)
She did her time in the public service and she now works for a major research-oriented university and makes near six figures in the academia-support role (a number of big schools have huge research libraries), she don't need my "support", lol..

Date Sujet#  Auteur
22 Apr 25 * OT: Public libraries27Don Y
22 Apr 25 +* Re: OT: Public libraries5bitrex
22 Apr 25 i`* Re: OT: Public libraries4Don Y
22 Apr 25 i +- Re: OT: Public libraries1Don Y
22 Apr 25 i `* Re: OT: Public libraries2bitrex
22 Apr 25 i  `- Re: OT: Public libraries1Don Y
22 Apr 25 +- Re: OT: Public libraries1john larkin
22 Apr 25 +* Re: OT: Public libraries5Martin Brown
22 Apr 25 i`* Re: OT: Public libraries4Don Y
22 Apr 25 i +- Re: OT: Public libraries1Don Y
22 Apr 25 i `* Re: OT: Public libraries2bitrex
22 Apr 25 i  `- Re: OT: Public libraries1Don Y
22 Apr 25 +* Re: OT: Public libraries4Christopher Howard
22 Apr 25 i`* Re: OT: Public libraries3Don Y
23 Apr 25 i `* Re: OT: Public libraries2Christopher Howard
23 Apr 25 i  `- Re: OT: Public libraries1Don Y
22 Apr 25 `* Re: OT: Public libraries11legg
22 Apr 25  +* Re: OT: Public libraries7Don Y
23 Apr 25  i+- Re: OT: Public libraries1legg
23 Apr 25  i`* Re: OT: Public libraries5legg
23 Apr 25  i `* Re: OT: Public libraries4Don Y
23 Apr 25  i  +- Re: OT: Public libraries1Bill Sloman
24 Apr 25  i  `* Re: OT: Public libraries2legg
24 Apr 25  i   `- Re: OT: Public libraries1Don Y
23 Apr 25  `* Re: OT: Public libraries3Christopher Howard
23 Apr 25   +- Re: OT: Public libraries1john larkin
23 Apr 25   `- Re: OT: Public libraries1Don Y

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