Re: Climate Remediation Engineering - Size of Problem

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Sujet : Re: Climate Remediation Engineering - Size of Problem
De : jl (at) *nospam* glen--canyon.com (john larkin)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 08. May 2025, 14:55:11
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On Thu, 8 May 2025 02:35:13 -0700, Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid>
wrote:

On 5/7/2025 2:10 AM, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
I am surprised that someone with your intelligence and knowledge should
repeat such a fallacy.
 
Manufacture of vehicle
Manufacture of batteries
Consumables (tyres, battery etc.)
Electricity generations (and the cost of making and maintaining the
plant)
Road making and maintenance (tarmac refining, transport & installation;
road 'wetal'; concrete; street furniture; lighting )
Disposal
>
But most of those things are present -- in greater quantities -- in
any sort of mechanized transportation.
>
I think the more significant (and longer term) difference is in
how you think about transportation.  If traveling long distances
(inefficiently) is your mindset, you will inherently be more
wasteful than if constrained to traveling shorter distances
(more efficiently).
>
How you lay out cities, neighborhoods, services, etc. all
change when you alter the means of transportation.  People who
expect to walk or ride public transportation obviously limit
the goods and services that they can reach.
>
For me to drag 4000 pounds of steel across town to pick up
an item that's only sold there is ridiculously inefficient.
OTOH, if the store's clientele was limited by a more efficient
transportation range, it might opt for smaller "branches"
or offer some form of delivery service -- where *it* incurs
the extra cost for transportation instead of EVERYONE having it.
>

One Amazon truck can replace a hundred SUV trips to the mall, where
you may well not find the thing you want.


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4 May 25 * Climate Remediation Engineering - Size of Problem49Joe Gwinn
4 May 25 +* Re: Climate Remediation Engineering - Size of Problem13john larkin
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6 May 25 `* Re: Climate Remediation Engineering - Size of Problem35Don Y
6 May 25  `* Re: Climate Remediation Engineering - Size of Problem34john larkin
6 May 25   +* Re: Climate Remediation Engineering - Size of Problem21Jeroen Belleman
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7 May 25   i   i   +- Re: Climate Remediation Engineering - Size of Problem1Bill Sloman
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8 May 25   i   i    `* Re: Climate Remediation Engineering - Size of Problem9john larkin
8 May 25   i   i     +- Re: Climate Remediation Engineering - Size of Problem1Bill Sloman
8 May 25   i   i     `* Re: Climate Remediation Engineering - Size of Problem7Jeroen Belleman
8 May 25   i   i      +- Re: Climate Remediation Engineering - Size of Problem1Bill Sloman
8 May 25   i   i      `* Re: Climate Remediation Engineering - Size of Problem5john larkin
8 May 25   i   i       +* Re: Climate Remediation Engineering - Size of Problem3Joe Gwinn
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7 May 25    `* Re: Climate Remediation Engineering - Size of Problem11Liz Tuddenham
7 May 25     +* Re: Climate Remediation Engineering - Size of Problem2john larkin
7 May 25     i`- Re: Climate Remediation Engineering - Size of Problem1Bill Sloman
7 May 25     +* Re: Climate Remediation Engineering - Size of Problem3Bill Sloman
7 May 25     i`* Re: Climate Remediation Engineering - Size of Problem2Liz Tuddenham
8 May 25     i `- Re: Climate Remediation Engineering - Size of Problem1Bill Sloman
8 May 25     `* Re: Climate Remediation Engineering - Size of Problem5Don Y
8 May 25      +* Re: Climate Remediation Engineering - Size of Problem3Liz Tuddenham
8 May 25      i+- Re: Climate Remediation Engineering - Size of Problem1Don Y
8 May 25      i`- Re: Climate Remediation Engineering - Size of Problem1Bill Sloman
8 May 25      `- Re: Climate Remediation Engineering - Size of Problem1john larkin

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