Re: Climate Remediation Engineering - Size of Problem

On 8/05/2025 11:51 pm, john larkin wrote:

On Thu, 8 May 2025 12:09:25 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
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On 5/8/25 01:07, john larkin wrote:

On Wed, 7 May 2025 23:43:05 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
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On 5/7/25 16:00, john larkin wrote:

On Wed, 7 May 2025 09:41:18 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
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On 5/7/25 00:56, john larkin wrote:

On Tue, 6 May 2025 23:26:56 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
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On 5/6/25 22:40, john larkin wrote:

On Tue, 6 May 2025 21:14:35 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
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On 5/6/25 21:09, john larkin wrote:

On Tue, 6 May 2025 20:38:17 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
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On 5/6/25 18:47, john larkin wrote:

On Mon, 5 May 2025 20:06:25 -0700, Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid>
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On 5/4/2025 8:48 AM, Joe Gwinn wrote:

For some time, I've been following the debate on Climate Change and
the back and forth on the practicality of removing enough carbon
dioxide (CO2) from the atmosphere, soon enough to matter.

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What constitutes "soon enough to matter"?  To who?  What?
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It took a long time to dig this hole, why would you think
it would be easy/quick/inexpensive to FILL it?
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We somehow managed to live with a ban on CFCs (ozone hole).  And,
emission controls on automobiles (smog, acid rain, etc.)
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One just has to decide there is value in "fixing" these (man-made)
problems.
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Heed Genesis 2:15, christians!
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There are still a billion dirt-poor people in the world, without
electricity and food insecure. They need energy, transport, and food,
all generating or using CO2.
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Long-term, prosperous people reduce their birth rates. I expect that
in a few hundred years Earth will have maybe 2 billion healthy,
literate, peaceful people and CO2 will be around 600 PPM, ideal for
trees and crops.
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If only, but I don't believe we'll get there. People are far too
bellicose.
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Jeroen Belleman

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We have come an enormous way in the last 1000 years, and in the last
300. I expect continued progress.
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Races and languages, the basis of tribal warfare, are gradually
merging. Around here every human critter that you can imagine seems to
be friends and lovers and parents with every other. That has to
continue.

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Religious and political convictions rather seem to diverge increasingly.
The chasm between the richest and poorest grows ever wider.

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But the fraction of the population that is super-poor keeps declining.
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Having some rich people around is OK. Having super-poor ones isn't.
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Most rich people have their wealth in stock shares, just bits on a
drive somewhere. A billionaire doesn't eat a million times as much as
the average person.
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We're far we ever will.

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Things keep getting better.

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You sound like Trump.
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Jeroen Belleman

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Thanks for the compliment.

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It wasn't intended as one.

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I knew that. Insults are normal here.
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The guy is deluded, crazy and dangerous.

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He's smart, has common sense, and is winning.

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If his sense passes for common sense in the US, ... never mind.
I suppose you're just rationalizing your poor choice. It's a well
known psychological defense mechanism. Trump is proudly leading
the US into a catastrophe.
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Jeroen Belleman

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Not my choice; I don't vote.
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We'll see about the catastrophe. If he can shut down the fentanyl and
export the cartel thugs and cancel Daylight Savings Time, he will save
a lot of lives.

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OK about the drugs and cartels, but I fail to see how cancelling
daylaight savings time contributes to saving lives.

 google    daylight savings time road deaths

But you haven't bothered, and the clear implication of that is that it is going to save a negligible number of lives - my guess is that anything that obliged people to fasten their seat belts if the car was moving would solve a whole lot more lives.

Last time he was President, the catastrophe was Covid, and he didn't
invent Covid.

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He suggested drinking bleach might help. Smart and common sense, indeed.

 He didn't suggest drinking bleach. Look it up.

He did suggest that it would just go away, which was pretty silly, and he was sloppy enough about social distancing that he caught it himself, which wasn't setting a great example, or exhibiting anything that looked like common sense.

Reducing funding for The Arts will be a catastrophe for some people.
They will have to find real jobs.

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There are certainly areas where funding is wasted, but going at it with
a blunt axe is not going to do any good.

 Sounds good to me. If a play is any good, let the audience pay to see
it.

Theatre is just one of the arts. And commercial theatre puts on rather different plays than ones I got to at the Royal Shakespeare Company and the UK national Theatre when I lived in the UK.

Lets hope he'll run out of steam soon. The signs are good: He doesn't
even remember he swore to uphold the constitution. He seems utterly
confused.

 Don't confuse bluffing (Trump) with senility (Biden.)

Trump isn't so much bluffing as seeing what he can get away with. Because he doesn't know much, quite a few of his try-ons are downright silly, and he has to back off fast.

A lot of countries are making trade deals; sounds like we have one
with the UK now.

He "negotiated" one with China during his first term. It didn't work.
His casino's went bust - his grasp of business doesn't seem to be all that good, and "his" book about "The Art of the Deal" was ghost-written.

We and the Israelis are pounding the Houthis and
Hamas.  Illegal immigration is way down.

And you aren't going to like learning to live with out cheap immigrant labour.

I expect some serious peace deals between Israel and its neighbors, in
the next year or so.

Then you aren't paying any  attention to what Israel is doing at the moment. It's pounding Gaza, and killing a great many more civilians than members of Hamas. This isn't a route to any kind of serious peace deal. It's looking a lot more like a war of territorial acquisition.

The Chinese situation will be interesting.

The Chinese will find other markets. The US used to be a big market, but Trump's antics look like driving it's economy into recession. If US businesses can't make money out of selling cheap Chinese imports, they are going to have to find other suppliers and wait until they can ramp up their production, and while that's happening your economy will be in recession.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney