Re: The Spanish Grid Drop-out - recently released information.

On 11/05/2025 5:04 am, john larkin wrote:

On Sat, 10 May 2025 11:22:20 -0700, Don Y
<blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
 

On 5/10/2025 9:58 AM, John Robertson wrote:

Perhaps for systems that have large solar or wind arrays they could use a
number of large rotating masses to smooth over these burps? Vacuum and magnetic
bearings...
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I imagine a series of rotating masses so if any single or several fail
(earthquake, etc.) the system wouldn't collapse.
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As you say, there is little inertia in these solar systems unlike water or fuel
generated power.

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The sun is *still* shining.  Why can't *it* supply the power
to all of the distributed inverters around the country at the
appropriate phase angle?  You only need storage if your
actual source of power disappears, relative to the load.
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I.e., turn excess generation capacity to "braking mass"

 If every solar inverter was networked and controlled in
voltage/current/phase angle, by some intelligent system controller,
one might not be so dependant on rotating mass.
 As solar and wind get to be dominant, micromanagement of power sources
and loads will be necessary to ensure uptime.
 (That's a big part of the green agenda: control everything.)

Only in climate change denial propaganda, which is paid for by the fossil fuel extraction industry, which wants to continue to control everything.
Paradoxically, because solar panel can be distributed much more easily than oil wells and oil refineries, solar power lends itself a lot more easily to the kind of local control and negotiated interaction between larger areas that the anarcho-syndicalists prefer.
John Larkin would probably see that as disadvantage if he understood what it meant, he prefers to be hoodwinked by the people who have always manipulated his opinions.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney