Re: The Spanish Grid Drop-out - recently released information.

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Sujet : Re: The Spanish Grid Drop-out - recently released information.
De : jl (at) *nospam* glen--canyon.com (john larkin)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 11. May 2025, 15:09:29
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On Sun, 11 May 2025 20:38:51 +1000, Chris Jones
<lugnut808@spam.yahoo.com> wrote:

On 11/05/2025 4:18 pm, Bill Sloman wrote:
I believe that there are some new regulations in at least one
Australian state, driven by the (fossil-fuel-stoked) fear of "too much
solar destabilising the grid", which require new home solar inverters
to stop exporting power, unless they receive continuous "permission to
export" signals from our overlords, the network operators.
 
It is cruder than that. They've just stopped paying any realistic kind
of feed-in tariff to people with roof-top solar, and as a result 40% of
new roof-top solar in Australia is now being installed with Tesla
Powerwall or similar battery. It more than doubles the cost of the
installation, but reduces the pay-back time for the whole installation
to about seven years, and save you negotiating with your power supplier
about their derisory feed-in tariffs.
>
>
No, they say:
>
"What happens if my solar inverter loses internet connectivity?
>
If your solar inverter loses internet connectivity, the excess energy
you export to the grid will automatically be reduced. This ensures it
can be safely managed."
( from here:
https://www.energy.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0019/701911/Emergency-backstop-customer-factsheet-June-2024.pdf
)
>
So if all of the inverters lose internet, which is entirely likely at
some point bearing in mind our telcos, we can expect a blackout too, all
so that "it can be safely managed." The blackout will no doubt help the
telcos to get back online promptly. Fun times ahead.
>

Electric power used to be reliable and affordable.


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10 May 25 * The Spanish Grid Drop-out - recently released information.107Bill Sloman
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10 May 25 i+- Re: The Spanish Grid Drop-out - recently released information.1Bill Sloman
10 May 25 i+* Re: The Spanish Grid Drop-out - recently released information.85Don Y
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11 May 25 iii+- Re: The Spanish Grid Drop-out - recently released information.1Bill Sloman
11 May 25 iii+* Re: The Spanish Grid Drop-out - recently released information.6Bill Sloman
11 May 25 iiii+- Re: The Spanish Grid Drop-out - recently released information.1Don Y
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11 May 25 iiii`* Re: The Spanish Grid Drop-out - recently released information.2Bill Sloman
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13 May 25 iii `* Re: The Spanish Grid Drop-out - recently released information.37Bill Sloman
13 May 25 iii  `* Re: The Spanish Grid Drop-out - recently released information.36Carlos E.R.
13 May 25 iii   `* Re: The Spanish Grid Drop-out - recently released information.35john larkin
13 May 25 iii    `* Re: The Spanish Grid Drop-out - recently released information.34Bill Sloman
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16 May 25 iii       i i i+* Re: The Spanish Grid Drop-out - recently released information.6Jeroen Belleman
16 May 25 iii       i i ii`* Re: The Spanish Grid Drop-out - recently released information.5john larkin
16 May 25 iii       i i ii +- Re: The Spanish Grid Drop-out - recently released information.1Bill Sloman
16 May 25 iii       i i ii `* Re: The Spanish Grid Drop-out - recently released information.3Jeroen Belleman
16 May 25 iii       i i ii  `* Re: The Spanish Grid Drop-out - recently released information.2john larkin
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15 May 25 iii       i i `- Re: The Spanish Grid Drop-out - recently released information.1Bill Sloman
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13 May 25 i  `- Re: The Spanish Grid Drop-out - recently released information.1Don Y
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14 May 25 `* Re: The Spanish Grid Drop-out - recently released information.9Carlos E.R.
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