Re: DDS question: why sine lookup?

On 5/11/25 08:55, Bill Sloman wrote:

On 11/05/2025 9:50 am, Dave Platt wrote:

In article <ad7v1kttjfhjulnameem9ta8gjst5cpa45@4ax.com>,
john larkin  <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:
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Looks like the best way is logic in the FPGA doing classic sine DDS,
maybe 6 or 8 output pins driving an R-2R network, a 3 or 5-pole
Chebyshev LC filter, and an LVDS receiver as the comparator.

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Be wary of that approach.
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I tried something like it (sans comparator), while using a simple FPGA
to generate a (modulated) 10.7 MHz IF signal for an FM-stereo test
generator.  The results were ungood.
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The output waveform had some pretty horrible glitches, at the times of
the transitions between values.  There's enough variation in delay in
the signal paths inside the FPGA to create a significant (in
picoseconds and nanoseconds) delay between the transition times of the
R2R bits.  If you're trying to go from (for example) 0x7F to 0x81,
your MSB is going to be transitioning high when most of your LSBs are
transitioning low.  There's very likely to be a brief moment of time
when the effective value is 0xFF (if the MSB transitions first) or
0x00 (if it transitions last), or some random and unpredictable and
ever-changing mix of bits.  The resulting spikes are narrow, but can
have a pretty fierce amplitude to them.

One approach that might help, but isn't going to be all that cheap, would be to latch the digital information coming out of the FPGA into something like an ECLinPS latch which has very fast internal logic and rather less variation in propagation delay between the clock edge going into the ECLinPS latch and the output edges of the data outputs.
 The other advantage is that ECL is current steering logic, so the latch rails are a lot clean than the rails inside the FPGA and the nominally unchanged edges aren't going to move as much.
 

at that point you might as well get a real DAC, there' quite a few cheap triple 8-10bit +200MHz DACs mean for video
like https://www.lcsc.com/product-detail/Digital-to-Analog-Converters-DAC_HTCSEMI-HT7123ARQZ_C2886392.html