Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET

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Sujet : Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET
De : bill.sloman (at) *nospam* ieee.org (Bill Sloman)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 20. May 2025, 08:43:52
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On 20/05/2025 8:24 am, john larkin wrote:
On Mon, 19 May 2025 14:26:55 -0400, "Edward Rawde" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
 
"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message
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On 19/05/2025 1:38 pm, john larkin wrote:
On Mon, 19 May 2025 12:23:54 +1000, Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
 
On 19/05/2025 12:15 am, john larkin wrote:
On Sun, 18 May 2025 18:11:58 +1000, Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
 
I'm looking at a problem where somebody wants to step
down a 1kV low current source to 3.3V.
 The Baxandall class-D oscillator could do it, but it
needs a pair 1.7kV MOSFETs for the job. The Infineon SiC
IMH170R450M1 would do it - though it's a much higher
current part (10A) than the job needs (about 1mA).
 I've dived into the Infineon rabbit-hole which promises
LTSpice models, but wasn't able to find one.
 Does anybody know of a similar - ideally cheaper and
smaller - part for which there is an LTSpice model?
 I use a Cree/Wolfspeed 1200v part, C2M0280120D, in my
Pockels Cell driver.
 https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/5arhyamrp0bl3tgb2fasn/DSC02771.JPG?rlkey=3ttcc2yt6s9nrtdouuv3aneol&raw=1
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They do have an LT Spice model library that works.
 Gate drive for SiC parts is a bear. I did it myself, but I
think there are chips for that now.
 There are multi-kilovolt silicon mosfets too.
 Baxandal looks to be inefficient and expensive as a low
power converter. The drain swing is 2x the supply voltage,
and it needs two fets and a difficult custom transformer.
 It isn't going to be inefficient. That configuration is
famous efficient.
 The drain swing is actually 1.67 times the supply voltage,
but it does need two switching devices and a specially wound
transformer (and we know how reluctant you are to design them
or get them made).
 It is probably going to be too expensive for the application,
and we'd be grateful for your insights into a cheaper
alternative. I can't think of one.
 I'm not sure what the specs are, but I have a few ideas.
 One could make a flyback converter with a high-ratio
transformer. Coilcraft makes some, capacitor charging
transformers and CCFLs. There must be crazy cheap Indian or
Chinese CCFL transformers.
 ST makes a 1400v NPN transistor for under a dollar.
 But you can't be bothered to post the part number.
 What you should have said is that you couldn't be bothered to use a
search engine.
 https://www.google.com/search?q=1400v+npn+st
 
 The STN0214 is a cute little 1200 volt SOT-223 for 70 cents at 100. 1400 volts in real life.
 Roger about using search engines to, well, search for things.
John Larkin hasn't paid any attention to the 1.7KV lower limit on the
drain to source voltage. His cavalier attitude to absolute maximun
ratings is well known, and pretty silly.
I did find the IMWH170R450M1 with a google search. It clearly didn't pick up parts that I would have expected it to.
There was a 4.5VkV $200 part that it should have found, but any part that expensive probably isn't going to be off the shelf or widely advertised, so there is an excuse.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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18 May09:11 * LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET88Bill Sloman
18 May15:15 +* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET50john larkin
19 May03:23 i`* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET49Bill Sloman
19 May04:38 i +* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET34john larkin
19 May09:19 i i`* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET33Bill Sloman
19 May14:29 i i +* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET16john larkin
19 May18:02 i i i`* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET15Bill Sloman
19 May19:28 i i i `* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET14Edward Rawde
19 May23:14 i i i  +* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET2john larkin
20 May08:23 i i i  i`- Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET1Bill Sloman
20 May08:26 i i i  `* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET11Bill Sloman
20 May16:04 i i i   `* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET10Mike Perkins
20 May17:38 i i i    `* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET9Bill Sloman
20 May18:03 i i i     `* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET [OT]8Liz Tuddenham
21 May12:59 i i i      `* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET [OT]7legg
21 May13:03 i i i       +* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET [OT]5Liz Tuddenham
21 May18:16 i i i       i`* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET [OT]4john larkin
21 May18:51 i i i       i +* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET [OT]2Phil Hobbs
21 May19:19 i i i       i i`- Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET [OT]1Bill Sloman
21 May21:14 i i i       i `- Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET [OT]1Liz Tuddenham
21 May13:34 i i i       `- Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET [OT]1Bill Sloman
19 May19:26 i i `* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET16Edward Rawde
19 May23:24 i i  +* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET2john larkin
20 May08:43 i i  i`- Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET1Bill Sloman
20 May08:34 i i  `* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET13Bill Sloman
20 May14:38 i i   `* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET12Edward Rawde
20 May14:51 i i    +- Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET1john larkin
20 May14:54 i i    +- Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET1John R Walliker
20 May17:48 i i    `* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET9Bill Sloman
20 May18:44 i i     `* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET8Edward Rawde
21 May07:39 i i      `* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET7Bill Sloman
21 May14:42 i i       `* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET6Edward Rawde
21 May16:26 i i        +- Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET1Bill Sloman
21 May16:37 i i        `* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET4john larkin
21 May16:43 i i         +* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET2Edward Rawde
21 May18:52 i i         i`- Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET1Bill Sloman
21 May18:49 i i         `- Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET1Bill Sloman
19 May14:33 i `* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET14legg
19 May18:21 i  +* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET11Bill Sloman
19 May20:48 i  i`* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET10legg
20 May08:49 i  i `* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET9Bill Sloman
20 May15:53 i  i  `* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET8legg
20 May16:44 i  i   +* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET4john larkin
20 May18:15 i  i   i`* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET3Bill Sloman
21 May03:42 i  i   i `* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET2john larkin
21 May07:46 i  i   i  `- Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET1Bill Sloman
20 May18:05 i  i   `* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET3Bill Sloman
21 May13:11 i  i    `* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET2legg
21 May16:41 i  i     `- Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET1Bill Sloman
20 May15:04 i  `* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET2john larkin
20 May18:25 i   `- Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET1Bill Sloman
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18 May17:12 +* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET6legg
19 May09:27 i`* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET5Bill Sloman
19 May13:48 i `* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET4legg
19 May14:12 i  `* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET3Bill Sloman
19 May20:28 i   `* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET2legg
20 May09:36 i    `- Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET1Bill Sloman
19 May16:13 +* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET26Liz Tuddenham
19 May17:56 i+* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET6john larkin
22 May09:44 ii`* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET5Liz Tuddenham
22 May15:36 ii `* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET4john larkin
22 May16:50 ii  `* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET3Liz Tuddenham
22 May17:50 ii   `* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET2john larkin
23 May10:04 ii    `- Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET1Liz Tuddenham
20 May09:46 i`* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET19Bill Sloman
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20 May18:34 i i`* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET7Bill Sloman
21 May12:05 i i `* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET6Liz Tuddenham
21 May13:44 i i  +* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET3Bill Sloman
21 May14:19 i i  i`* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET2Liz Tuddenham
21 May16:51 i i  i `- Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET1Bill Sloman
21 May15:41 i i  `* Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET2john larkin
21 May18:55 i i   `- Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET1Bill Sloman
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