Re: Phase or frequency modulation?

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Sujet : Re: Phase or frequency modulation?
De : pcdhSpamMeSenseless (at) *nospam* electrooptical.net (Phil Hobbs)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 08. Jul 2025, 18:34:53
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Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
 
 
... The crystal mode is a mass-spring
oscillation, so an instantaneous change in the spring constant causes an
instantaneous change of frequency.
 
There’s no need for the resonant energy to die out, unlike the case of
external forcing, where a change in the forcing frequency takes on the
order of Q cycles to change the response.
 
Could I ask you to explain this a bit more please.  Where is the
'spring' that is variable?
 
 

The spring is the mechanical stiffness of the quartz, plus the
piezoelectric force caused by the interaction with the external circuit.
The mass is the mass. ;)

Dorking the load capacitance slows down or speeds up the piezo restoring
force.

Looking at it this way, i.e. as a simple harmonic oscillator, introduces
some small error, because there is a small acoustic delay involved. It’s
tiny compared with a SAW resonator, however.

I had this forcefully brought to my attention long ago, when my old
colleague Doug Smith invented a super fast atomic force microscope by
turning the vibrating cantilever into an oscillator.

Mine was way more sensitive, but his was, like, 200 times faster.  Really a
smart guy.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs  Principal Consultant  ElectroOptical Innovations LLC /
Hobbs ElectroOptics  Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

Date Sujet#  Auteur
7 Jul08:44 * Phase or frequency modulation?29Liz Tuddenham
7 Jul14:14 +* Re: Phase or frequency modulation?22john larkin
7 Jul15:04 i`* Re: Phase or frequency modulation?21Liz Tuddenham
7 Jul16:07 i `* Re: Phase or frequency modulation?20john larkin
7 Jul16:11 i  +* Re: Phase or frequency modulation?18john larkin
7 Jul18:28 i  i`* Re: Phase or frequency modulation?17Liz Tuddenham
7 Jul18:48 i  i `* Re: Phase or frequency modulation?16john larkin
7 Jul19:06 i  i  +* Re: Phase or frequency modulation?13Liz Tuddenham
7 Jul22:54 i  i  i+* Re: Phase or frequency modulation?3john larkin
8 Jul08:50 i  i  ii`* Re: Phase or frequency modulation?2Liz Tuddenham
8 Jul16:16 i  i  ii `- Re: Phase or frequency modulation?1john larkin
8 Jul12:19 i  i  i`* Re: Phase or frequency modulation?9Phil Hobbs
8 Jul12:30 i  i  i +- Re: Phase or frequency modulation?1Liz Tuddenham
8 Jul13:45 i  i  i +* Re: Phase or frequency modulation?5piglet
8 Jul15:23 i  i  i i`* Re: Phase or frequency modulation?4Phil Hobbs
8 Jul16:55 i  i  i i +* Re: Phase or frequency modulation?2Liz Tuddenham
8 Jul18:34 i  i  i i i`- Re: Phase or frequency modulation?1Phil Hobbs
8 Jul20:00 i  i  i i `- Re: Phase or frequency modulation?1piglet
8 Jul18:39 i  i  i `* Re: Phase or frequency modulation?2john larkin
8 Jul20:00 i  i  i  `- Re: Phase or frequency modulation?1Phil Hobbs
8 Jul23:20 i  i  `* Re: Phase or frequency modulation?2Ralph Mowery
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7 Jul18:28 i  `- Re: Phase or frequency modulation?1Liz Tuddenham
7 Jul14:41 +* Re: Phase or frequency modulation?2Don
7 Jul15:00 i`- Re: Phase or frequency modulation?1Phil Hobbs
7 Jul18:28 +* Re: Phase or frequency modulation?2Liz Tuddenham
9 Jul09:08 i`- Re: Phase or frequency modulation?1Liz Tuddenham
8 Jul22:25 `* Re: Phase or frequency modulation?2Ralph Mowery
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