Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions

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Sujet : Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions
De : robin_listas (at) *nospam* es.invalid (Carlos E.R.)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 10. Jul 2025, 01:27:53
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On 2025-07-09 23:49, Glen Walpert wrote:
On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 23:07:26 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-07-09 22:57, Joe Gwinn wrote:
...
<https://elperiodicodelaenergia.com/el-gobierno-aprueba-la-
instalacion-de-compensadores-sincronos-y-refuerza-la-interconexion-con-
francia/>
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... You can read the rest on the link if desired.
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I did.  Thanks.
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What exactly do they mean by "Synchronous Compensators"?
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I don't know, I'm not an electrical engineer. But one of the comments
may explain a bit:
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Frank
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07/08/2025 Synchronous compensators are reverse generators acting as
motors connected to the grid. What follows is simulations to determine
where on the grid they are most effective, power and costs because like
all motors they take active power from the grid which is priced on an
hourly basis. And the last thing is who will pay for the voltage control
service and how the installed equipment will be accounted for.
 Synchronous Compensators are also known as Rotary Capacitors, they are
unloaded synchronous motors which, like synchronous generators, will
deliver reactive power (same as a capacitor) when overexcited, and consume
reactive power when underexcited (like an inductor).  They have been in
common use since the early days of power distribution to produce reactive
power near loads, to reduce the amount remote generation needs to send
over transmission lines, with the attendant losses.  Regular capacitors
are also used for this purpose, but the rotary type is continuously
adjustable.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchronous_condenser>
Synchronous condenser
In electrical engineering, a synchronous condenser (sometimes called a syncon, synchronous capacitor or synchronous compensator) is a DC-excited synchronous motor, whose shaft is not connected to anything but spins freely.[1] Its purpose is not to convert electric power to mechanical power or vice versa, but to adjust conditions on the three phase electric power transmission grid. Its field is controlled by a voltage regulator to either generate or absorb reactive power as needed to adjust the grid's voltage, or to improve power factor. The condenser’s installation and operation are identical to large electric motors and generators. (Some generators are actually designed to be able to operate as synchronous condensers with the prime mover disconnected[2]).
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Cheers, Carlos.

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17 Jun 25 * Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report50Carlos E.R.
18 Jun 25 +* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report19Liz Tuddenham
18 Jun 25 i+* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report10Martin Brown
18 Jun 25 ii+* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report3Liz Tuddenham
18 Jun 25 iii`* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report2Martin Brown
18 Jun 25 iii `- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Liz Tuddenham
19 Jun 25 ii`* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report6Bill Sloman
19 Jun 25 ii `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report5Carlos E.R.
19 Jun 25 ii  `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report4Martin Brown
19 Jun 25 ii   +* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report2Bill Sloman
19 Jun 25 ii   i`- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Carlos E.R.
19 Jun 25 ii   `- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Carlos E.R.
18 Jun 25 i`* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report8Carlos E.R.
18 Jun 25 i +* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report3Joe Gwinn
18 Jun 25 i i`* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report2Carlos E.R.
18 Jun 25 i i `- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Joe Gwinn
18 Jun 25 i +* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report3Martin Brown
18 Jun 25 i i`* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report2Carlos E.R.
19 Jun 25 i i `- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Martin Brown
18 Jun 25 i `- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Liz Tuddenham
18 Jun 25 +- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Martin Brown
21 Jun 25 +* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), battery stations are being constructed2Carlos E.R.
21 Jun 25 i`- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), battery stations are being constructed1Martin Brown
25 Jun 25 +* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), new regulation2Carlos E.R.
26 Jun 25 i`- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), new regulation1Bill Sloman
9 Jul21:10 +* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions12Carlos E.R.
9 Jul22:07 i`* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions11Carlos E.R.
9 Jul23:08 i +* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions7Joe Gwinn
10 Jul00:26 i i+* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions2Joe Gwinn
10 Jul01:32 i ii`- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions1Carlos E.R.
10 Jul12:54 i i`* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions4piglet
10 Jul16:29 i i `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions3Joe Gwinn
10 Jul17:13 i i  `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions2piglet
10 Jul21:04 i i   `- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions1Joe Gwinn
10 Jul01:27 i `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions3Carlos E.R.
10 Jul12:51 i  `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions2Carlos E.R.
10 Jul19:56 i   `- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions1Carlos E.R.
10 Jul01:42 `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report13Don Y
10 Jul11:49  +- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Carlos E.R.
10 Jul14:55  `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report11Don Y
10 Jul20:00   `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report10Carlos E.R.
10 Jul22:39    `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report9Don Y
10 Jul23:14     `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report8Carlos E.R.
11 Jul00:20      `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report7Don Y
11 Jul01:27       `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report6Carlos E.R.
11 Jul01:35        `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report5Don Y
11 Jul10:58         +* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report2Carlos E.R.
11 Jul23:08         i`- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Don Y
11 Jul18:41         `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report2Jeroen Belleman
11 Jul21:14          `- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Phil Hobbs

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