Re: The Sciences of the Artificial applied to Biology

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Sujet : Re: The Sciences of the Artificial applied to Biology
De : bill.sloman (at) *nospam* ieee.org (Bill Sloman)
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Date : 10. Jul 2025, 05:37:36
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On 10/07/2025 9:38 am, Joe Gwinn wrote:
I forgot to mention that he Sciences of the Artificial digs deep into
why living things (even microscopic ones) have distinct organs and
often components within such organs, versus the organism being a mass
of tissue that somehow does everything.  The driver is efficiency and
simplicity.
 This assumes that life has already emerged in some unspecified way,
and goes from there.  This is a different approach than Dawkins'
Blind-Watchmaker arguments.
Of course it is. Dawkins is a biologists and Simon Herbert is a professor of computer science.
Dawkins wants to know how something evolved. Herbert wants to know how something that exists and survives happens to work.
Both have an interest in the fine detail of the processes that keep organisms alive, but Dawkin wants to know how the processes have changed as the organism have evolved, while Herbert is primarily interested in how they work now

Ref:  "Simon_Herbert_A_The_Sciences_of_the_Artificial_3rd_ed" - The
Architecture of Complexity.  New copies are available from MIT Press.
Despite being published by the MIT Press, Herbert is at Carnegie-Mellon.
This shouldn't come as a surprise. MIT press also published my wife's textbook, even though she was only at MIT briefly in the 1970s as a post-doc.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Date Sujet#  Auteur
10 Jul00:38 * The Sciences of the Artificial applied to Biology23Joe Gwinn
10 Jul05:37 +- Re: The Sciences of the Artificial applied to Biology1Bill Sloman
10 Jul19:04 `* Re: The Sciences of the Artificial applied to Biology21john larkin
10 Jul21:14  +* Re: The Sciences of the Artificial applied to Biology9Joe Gwinn
10 Jul23:16  i`* Re: The Sciences of the Artificial applied to Biology8john larkin
11 Jul00:48  i +* Re: The Sciences of the Artificial applied to Biology6Joe Gwinn
11 Jul20:22  i i`* Re: The Sciences of the Artificial applied to Biology5john larkin
11 Jul21:44  i i `* Re: The Sciences of the Artificial applied to Biology4Joe Gwinn
11 Jul22:02  i i  `* Re: The Sciences of the Artificial applied to Biology3john larkin
11 Jul22:43  i i   `* Re: The Sciences of the Artificial applied to Biology2Joe Gwinn
12 Jul01:50  i i    `- Re: The Sciences of the Artificial applied to Biology1john larkin
11 Jul16:50  i `- Re: The Sciences of the Artificial applied to Biology1Bill Sloman
11 Jul16:37  +* Re: The Sciences of the Artificial applied to Biology2Bill Sloman
11 Jul17:42  i`- Re: The Sciences of the Artificial applied to Biology1bitrex
11 Jul16:49  `* Re: The Sciences of the Artificial applied to Biology9Phil Hobbs
11 Jul17:04   +* Re: The Sciences of the Artificial applied to Biology6john larkin
11 Jul17:25   i+* Re: The Sciences of the Artificial applied to Biology4Phil Hobbs
11 Jul19:39   ii+- Re: The Sciences of the Artificial applied to Biology1Joe Gwinn
12 Jul01:14   ii`* Re: The Sciences of the Artificial applied to Biology2Edward Rawde
12 Jul04:13   ii `- Re: The Sciences of the Artificial applied to Biology1Phil Hobbs
11 Jul18:23   i`- Re: The Sciences of the Artificial applied to Biology1Bill Sloman
11 Jul20:08   `* Re: The Sciences of the Artificial applied to Biology2bitrex
11 Jul23:35    `- Re: The Sciences of the Artificial applied to Biology1Don Y

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