Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report

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Sujet : Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report
De : robin_listas (at) *nospam* es.invalid (Carlos E.R.)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 11. Jul 2025, 10:58:56
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On 2025-07-11 02:35, Don Y wrote:
On 7/10/2025 5:27 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-07-11 01:20, Don Y wrote:
On 7/10/2025 3:14 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-07-10 23:39, Don Y wrote:
On 7/10/2025 12:00 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-07-10 15:55, Don Y wrote:
Again, which plants?  Was there policy in place that caused this (if so,
why hadn't ALL plants?)
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"...because ‘some operators’ were not complying with the regulations"
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Which?
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"The report, due to a ‘confidentiality obligation’ has “anonymised”
information, ‘on most occasions’ at the request of the actors involved..."
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Do you see the pattern, here?
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I.e., "Someone was killed.  We've spoken to the killer -- who shall remain
anonymous and promise not to do it again..."
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Because if not, they would not have talked and the cause would not be known and corrective action not taken fast.
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"Something horrific happened.  We've spoken to the parties responsible.
We *think* they won't do it again but don't want anyone to know who
was actually responsible (as THEY aren't part of the problem??)"
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Finding a culprit to sue will take decades (it is another investigation), and we want solutions now.
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So, let's just keep the "bad actor" in the same position of responsibility
WHILE we are deciding who to sue?
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I prefer to have electricity than a culprit.
 But you have no assurance that you will *still* have electricity!
If the same "actors" are in place, what guarantee that they won't
similarly screw up next week/month/year?  What incentive do THEY
have to "perform correctly" -- if the NEXT lawsuit will be years
after the *first* lawsuit?
 If you hide their identities *now*, that doesn't prevent all the
same "anonymized data" from being subpoenaed and introduced as
evidence in their later *trial*.  They're still on-the-hook
for their responsibility.
 (Ah, but stockholders can continue to profit UNTIL the trial...)
If their identities were not anonymized, they would not have talked at all. It would have taken years to have a working report.
I prefer to have this report now, so that it can be acted upon, and let the courts find the culprits to sue at their leisurely pace in a decade time.
--
Cheers, Carlos.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
17 Jun 25 * Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report50Carlos E.R.
18 Jun 25 +* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report19Liz Tuddenham
18 Jun 25 i+* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report10Martin Brown
18 Jun 25 ii+* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report3Liz Tuddenham
18 Jun 25 iii`* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report2Martin Brown
18 Jun 25 iii `- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Liz Tuddenham
19 Jun 25 ii`* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report6Bill Sloman
19 Jun 25 ii `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report5Carlos E.R.
19 Jun 25 ii  `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report4Martin Brown
19 Jun 25 ii   +* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report2Bill Sloman
19 Jun 25 ii   i`- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Carlos E.R.
19 Jun 25 ii   `- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Carlos E.R.
18 Jun 25 i`* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report8Carlos E.R.
18 Jun 25 i +* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report3Joe Gwinn
18 Jun 25 i i`* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report2Carlos E.R.
18 Jun 25 i i `- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Joe Gwinn
18 Jun 25 i +* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report3Martin Brown
18 Jun 25 i i`* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report2Carlos E.R.
19 Jun 25 i i `- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Martin Brown
18 Jun 25 i `- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Liz Tuddenham
18 Jun 25 +- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Martin Brown
21 Jun 25 +* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), battery stations are being constructed2Carlos E.R.
21 Jun 25 i`- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), battery stations are being constructed1Martin Brown
25 Jun 25 +* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), new regulation2Carlos E.R.
26 Jun 25 i`- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), new regulation1Bill Sloman
9 Jul21:10 +* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions12Carlos E.R.
9 Jul22:07 i`* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions11Carlos E.R.
9 Jul23:08 i +* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions7Joe Gwinn
10 Jul00:26 i i+* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions2Joe Gwinn
10 Jul01:32 i ii`- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions1Carlos E.R.
10 Jul12:54 i i`* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions4piglet
10 Jul16:29 i i `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions3Joe Gwinn
10 Jul17:13 i i  `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions2piglet
10 Jul21:04 i i   `- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions1Joe Gwinn
10 Jul01:27 i `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions3Carlos E.R.
10 Jul12:51 i  `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions2Carlos E.R.
10 Jul19:56 i   `- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions1Carlos E.R.
10 Jul01:42 `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report13Don Y
10 Jul11:49  +- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Carlos E.R.
10 Jul14:55  `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report11Don Y
10 Jul20:00   `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report10Carlos E.R.
10 Jul22:39    `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report9Don Y
10 Jul23:14     `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report8Carlos E.R.
11 Jul00:20      `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report7Don Y
11 Jul01:27       `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report6Carlos E.R.
11 Jul01:35        `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report5Don Y
11 Jul10:58         +* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report2Carlos E.R.
11 Jul23:08         i`- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Don Y
11 Jul18:41         `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report2Jeroen Belleman
11 Jul21:14          `- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Phil Hobbs

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