Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report

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Sujet : Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report
De : pcdhSpamMeSenseless (at) *nospam* electrooptical.net (Phil Hobbs)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 11. Jul 2025, 21:14:42
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On 2025-07-11 13:41, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
On 7/11/25 02:35, Don Y wrote:
On 7/10/2025 5:27 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-07-11 01:20, Don Y wrote:
On 7/10/2025 3:14 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-07-10 23:39, Don Y wrote:
On 7/10/2025 12:00 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-07-10 15:55, Don Y wrote:
Again, which plants?  Was there policy in place that caused this (if so,
why hadn't ALL plants?)
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"...because ‘some operators’ were not complying with the regulations"
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Which?
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"The report, due to a ‘confidentiality obligation’ has “anonymised”
information, ‘on most occasions’ at the request of the actors involved..."
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Do you see the pattern, here?
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I.e., "Someone was killed.  We've spoken to the killer -- who shall remain
anonymous and promise not to do it again..."
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Because if not, they would not have talked and the cause would not be known and corrective action not taken fast.
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"Something horrific happened.  We've spoken to the parties responsible.
We *think* they won't do it again but don't want anyone to know who
was actually responsible (as THEY aren't part of the problem??)"
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Finding a culprit to sue will take decades (it is another investigation), and we want solutions now.
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So, let's just keep the "bad actor" in the same position of responsibility
WHILE we are deciding who to sue?
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I prefer to have electricity than a culprit.
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But you have no assurance that you will *still* have electricity!
If the same "actors" are in place, what guarantee that they won't
similarly screw up next week/month/year?  What incentive do THEY
have to "perform correctly" -- if the NEXT lawsuit will be years
after the *first* lawsuit?
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If you hide their identities *now*, that doesn't prevent all the
same "anonymized data" from being subpoenaed and introduced as
evidence in their later *trial*.  They're still on-the-hook
for their responsibility.
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(Ah, but stockholders can continue to profit UNTIL the trial...)
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 Typical American: Sue! Sue! Sue!
 Jeroen Belleman
Y'all come visit, and see.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
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17 Jun 25 * Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report50Carlos E.R.
18 Jun 25 +* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report19Liz Tuddenham
18 Jun 25 i+* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report10Martin Brown
18 Jun 25 ii+* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report3Liz Tuddenham
18 Jun 25 iii`* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report2Martin Brown
18 Jun 25 iii `- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Liz Tuddenham
19 Jun 25 ii`* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report6Bill Sloman
19 Jun 25 ii `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report5Carlos E.R.
19 Jun 25 ii  `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report4Martin Brown
19 Jun 25 ii   +* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report2Bill Sloman
19 Jun 25 ii   i`- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Carlos E.R.
19 Jun 25 ii   `- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Carlos E.R.
18 Jun 25 i`* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report8Carlos E.R.
18 Jun 25 i +* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report3Joe Gwinn
18 Jun 25 i i`* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report2Carlos E.R.
18 Jun 25 i i `- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Joe Gwinn
18 Jun 25 i +* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report3Martin Brown
18 Jun 25 i i`* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report2Carlos E.R.
19 Jun 25 i i `- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Martin Brown
18 Jun 25 i `- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Liz Tuddenham
18 Jun 25 +- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Martin Brown
21 Jun 25 +* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), battery stations are being constructed2Carlos E.R.
21 Jun 25 i`- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), battery stations are being constructed1Martin Brown
25 Jun 25 +* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), new regulation2Carlos E.R.
26 Jun 25 i`- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), new regulation1Bill Sloman
9 Jul21:10 +* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions12Carlos E.R.
9 Jul22:07 i`* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions11Carlos E.R.
9 Jul23:08 i +* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions7Joe Gwinn
10 Jul00:26 i i+* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions2Joe Gwinn
10 Jul01:32 i ii`- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions1Carlos E.R.
10 Jul12:54 i i`* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions4piglet
10 Jul16:29 i i `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions3Joe Gwinn
10 Jul17:13 i i  `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions2piglet
10 Jul21:04 i i   `- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions1Joe Gwinn
10 Jul01:27 i `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions3Carlos E.R.
10 Jul12:51 i  `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions2Carlos E.R.
10 Jul19:56 i   `- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions1Carlos E.R.
10 Jul01:42 `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report13Don Y
10 Jul11:49  +- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Carlos E.R.
10 Jul14:55  `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report11Don Y
10 Jul20:00   `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report10Carlos E.R.
10 Jul22:39    `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report9Don Y
10 Jul23:14     `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report8Carlos E.R.
11 Jul00:20      `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report7Don Y
11 Jul01:27       `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report6Carlos E.R.
11 Jul01:35        `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report5Don Y
11 Jul10:58         +* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report2Carlos E.R.
11 Jul23:08         i`- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Don Y
11 Jul18:41         `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report2Jeroen Belleman
11 Jul21:14          `- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Phil Hobbs

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