Sujet : Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report
De : pcdhSpamMeSenseless (at) *nospam* electrooptical.net (Phil Hobbs)
Groupes : sci.electronics.designDate : 11. Jul 2025, 21:14:42
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On 2025-07-11 13:41, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
On 7/11/25 02:35, Don Y wrote:
On 7/10/2025 5:27 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-07-11 01:20, Don Y wrote:
On 7/10/2025 3:14 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-07-10 23:39, Don Y wrote:
On 7/10/2025 12:00 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-07-10 15:55, Don Y wrote:
Again, which plants? Was there policy in place that caused this (if so,
why hadn't ALL plants?)
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"...because ‘some operators’ were not complying with the regulations"
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Which?
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"The report, due to a ‘confidentiality obligation’ has “anonymised”
information, ‘on most occasions’ at the request of the actors involved..."
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Do you see the pattern, here?
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I.e., "Someone was killed. We've spoken to the killer -- who shall remain
anonymous and promise not to do it again..."
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Because if not, they would not have talked and the cause would not be known and corrective action not taken fast.
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"Something horrific happened. We've spoken to the parties responsible.
We *think* they won't do it again but don't want anyone to know who
was actually responsible (as THEY aren't part of the problem??)"
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Finding a culprit to sue will take decades (it is another investigation), and we want solutions now.
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So, let's just keep the "bad actor" in the same position of responsibility
WHILE we are deciding who to sue?
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I prefer to have electricity than a culprit.
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But you have no assurance that you will *still* have electricity!
If the same "actors" are in place, what guarantee that they won't
similarly screw up next week/month/year? What incentive do THEY
have to "perform correctly" -- if the NEXT lawsuit will be years
after the *first* lawsuit?
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If you hide their identities *now*, that doesn't prevent all the
same "anonymized data" from being subpoenaed and introduced as
evidence in their later *trial*. They're still on-the-hook
for their responsibility.
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(Ah, but stockholders can continue to profit UNTIL the trial...)
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Typical American: Sue! Sue! Sue!
Jeroen Belleman
Y'all come visit, and see.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
-- Dr Philip C D HobbsPrincipal ConsultantElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOpticsOptics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog ElectronicsBriarcliff Manor NY 10510
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Date | Sujet | # | | Auteur |
17 Jun 25 | Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report | 50 | | Carlos E.R. |
18 Jun 25 |  Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report | 19 | | Liz Tuddenham |
18 Jun 25 |   Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report | 10 | | Martin Brown |
18 Jun 25 |    Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report | 3 | | Liz Tuddenham |
18 Jun 25 |     Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report | 2 | | Martin Brown |
18 Jun 25 |      Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report | 1 | | Liz Tuddenham |
19 Jun 25 |    Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report | 6 | | Bill Sloman |
19 Jun 25 |     Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report | 5 | | Carlos E.R. |
19 Jun 25 |      Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report | 4 | | Martin Brown |
19 Jun 25 |       Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report | 2 | | Bill Sloman |
19 Jun 25 |        Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report | 1 | | Carlos E.R. |
19 Jun 25 |       Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report | 1 | | Carlos E.R. |
18 Jun 25 |   Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report | 8 | | Carlos E.R. |
18 Jun 25 |    Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report | 3 | | Joe Gwinn |
18 Jun 25 |     Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report | 2 | | Carlos E.R. |
18 Jun 25 |      Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report | 1 | | Joe Gwinn |
18 Jun 25 |    Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report | 3 | | Martin Brown |
18 Jun 25 |     Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report | 2 | | Carlos E.R. |
19 Jun 25 |      Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report | 1 | | Martin Brown |
18 Jun 25 |    Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report | 1 | | Liz Tuddenham |
18 Jun 25 |  Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report | 1 | | Martin Brown |
21 Jun 25 |  Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), battery stations are being constructed | 2 | | Carlos E.R. |
21 Jun 25 |   Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), battery stations are being constructed | 1 | | Martin Brown |
25 Jun 25 |  Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), new regulation | 2 | | Carlos E.R. |
26 Jun 25 |   Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), new regulation | 1 | | Bill Sloman |
9 Jul21:10 |  Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions | 12 | | Carlos E.R. |
9 Jul22:07 |   Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions | 11 | | Carlos E.R. |
9 Jul23:08 |    Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions | 7 | | Joe Gwinn |
10 Jul00:26 |     Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions | 2 | | Joe Gwinn |
10 Jul01:32 |      Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions | 1 | | Carlos E.R. |
10 Jul12:54 |     Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions | 4 | | piglet |
10 Jul16:29 |      Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions | 3 | | Joe Gwinn |
10 Jul17:13 |       Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions | 2 | | piglet |
10 Jul21:04 |        Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions | 1 | | Joe Gwinn |
10 Jul01:27 |    Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions | 3 | | Carlos E.R. |
10 Jul12:51 |     Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions | 2 | | Carlos E.R. |
10 Jul19:56 |      Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions | 1 | | Carlos E.R. |
10 Jul01:42 |  Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report | 13 | | Don Y |
10 Jul11:49 |   Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report | 1 | | Carlos E.R. |
10 Jul14:55 |   Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report | 11 | | Don Y |
10 Jul20:00 |    Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report | 10 | | Carlos E.R. |
10 Jul22:39 |     Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report | 9 | | Don Y |
10 Jul23:14 |      Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report | 8 | | Carlos E.R. |
11 Jul00:20 |       Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report | 7 | | Don Y |
11 Jul01:27 |        Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report | 6 | | Carlos E.R. |
11 Jul01:35 |         Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report | 5 | | Don Y |
11 Jul10:58 |          Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report | 2 | | Carlos E.R. |
11 Jul23:08 |           Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report | 1 | | Don Y |
11 Jul18:41 |          Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report | 2 | | Jeroen Belleman |
11 Jul21:14 |           Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report | 1 | | Phil Hobbs |