Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report

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Sujet : Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report
De : pcdhSpamMeSenseless (at) *nospam* electrooptical.net (Phil Hobbs)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 12. Jul 2025, 22:26:06
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Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
On 7/11/25 22:14, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2025-07-11 13:41, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
On 7/11/25 02:35, Don Y wrote:
On 7/10/2025 5:27 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-07-11 01:20, Don Y wrote:
On 7/10/2025 3:14 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-07-10 23:39, Don Y wrote:
On 7/10/2025 12:00 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-07-10 15:55, Don Y wrote:
Again, which plants?  Was there policy in place that caused
this (if so,
why hadn't ALL plants?)
 
"...because ‘some operators’ were not complying with the
regulations"
 
Which?
 
"The report, due to a ‘confidentiality obligation’ has
“anonymised”
information, ‘on most occasions’ at the request of the actors
involved..."
 
Do you see the pattern, here?
 
I.e., "Someone was killed.  We've spoken to the killer -- who
shall remain
anonymous and promise not to do it again..."
 
 
Because if not, they would not have talked and the cause would
not be known and corrective action not taken fast.
 
"Something horrific happened.  We've spoken to the parties
responsible.
We *think* they won't do it again but don't want anyone to know who
was actually responsible (as THEY aren't part of the problem??)"
 
Finding a culprit to sue will take decades (it is another
investigation), and we want solutions now.
 
So, let's just keep the "bad actor" in the same position of
responsibility
WHILE we are deciding who to sue?
 
I prefer to have electricity than a culprit.
 
But you have no assurance that you will *still* have electricity!
If the same "actors" are in place, what guarantee that they won't
similarly screw up next week/month/year?  What incentive do THEY
have to "perform correctly" -- if the NEXT lawsuit will be years
after the *first* lawsuit?
 
If you hide their identities *now*, that doesn't prevent all the
same "anonymized data" from being subpoenaed and introduced as
evidence in their later *trial*.  They're still on-the-hook
for their responsibility.
 
(Ah, but stockholders can continue to profit UNTIL the trial...)
 
 
Typical American: Sue! Sue! Sue!
 
Jeroen Belleman
 
Y'all come visit, and see.
 
Cheers
 
Phil Hobbs
 
 
Not right now, sorry. Too afraid to end up in a Salvadorian prison.
Maybe when civilization returns.
 
Jeroen Belleman
 

Well, you’d know best if you’re likely to commit a Class A felony, but I
wouldn’t have thought it.   

;)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs  Principal Consultant  ElectroOptical Innovations LLC /
Hobbs ElectroOptics  Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

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17 Jun 25 * Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report53Carlos E.R.
18 Jun 25 +* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report19Liz Tuddenham
18 Jun 25 i+* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report10Martin Brown
18 Jun 25 ii+* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report3Liz Tuddenham
18 Jun 25 iii`* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report2Martin Brown
18 Jun 25 iii `- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Liz Tuddenham
19 Jun 25 ii`* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report6Bill Sloman
19 Jun 25 ii `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report5Carlos E.R.
19 Jun 25 ii  `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report4Martin Brown
19 Jun 25 ii   +* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report2Bill Sloman
19 Jun 25 ii   i`- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Carlos E.R.
19 Jun 25 ii   `- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Carlos E.R.
18 Jun 25 i`* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report8Carlos E.R.
18 Jun 25 i +* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report3Joe Gwinn
18 Jun 25 i i`* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report2Carlos E.R.
18 Jun 25 i i `- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Joe Gwinn
18 Jun 25 i +* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report3Martin Brown
18 Jun 25 i i`* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report2Carlos E.R.
19 Jun 25 i i `- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Martin Brown
18 Jun 25 i `- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Liz Tuddenham
18 Jun 25 +- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Martin Brown
21 Jun 25 +* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), battery stations are being constructed2Carlos E.R.
21 Jun 25 i`- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), battery stations are being constructed1Martin Brown
25 Jun 25 +* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), new regulation2Carlos E.R.
26 Jun 25 i`- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), new regulation1Bill Sloman
9 Jul21:10 +* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions12Carlos E.R.
9 Jul22:07 i`* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions11Carlos E.R.
9 Jul23:08 i +* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions7Joe Gwinn
10 Jul00:26 i i+* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions2Joe Gwinn
10 Jul01:32 i ii`- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions1Carlos E.R.
10 Jul12:54 i i`* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions4piglet
10 Jul16:29 i i `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions3Joe Gwinn
10 Jul17:13 i i  `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions2piglet
10 Jul21:04 i i   `- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions1Joe Gwinn
10 Jul01:27 i `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions3Carlos E.R.
10 Jul12:51 i  `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions2Carlos E.R.
10 Jul19:56 i   `- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), 65 corrective actions1Carlos E.R.
10 Jul01:42 `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report16Don Y
10 Jul11:49  +- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Carlos E.R.
10 Jul14:55  `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report14Don Y
10 Jul20:00   `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report13Carlos E.R.
10 Jul22:39    `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report12Don Y
10 Jul23:14     `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report11Carlos E.R.
11 Jul00:20      `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report10Don Y
11 Jul01:27       `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report9Carlos E.R.
11 Jul01:35        `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report8Don Y
11 Jul10:58         +* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report2Carlos E.R.
11 Jul23:08         i`- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1Don Y
11 Jul18:41         `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report5Jeroen Belleman
11 Jul21:14          `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report4Phil Hobbs
12 Jul19:36           `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report3Jeroen Belleman
12 Jul22:26            `* Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report2Phil Hobbs
12 Jul22:49             `- Re: Causes of the Gran Apagón (Spain), first oficial report1John R Walliker

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