Sujet : Re: Maya Angelou died (28-5-2014)
De : kehoea (at) *nospam* parhasard.net (Aidan Kehoe)
Groupes : sci.langDate : 01. Jun 2024, 16:40:36
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Ar an chéad lá de mí Meitheamh, scríobh Athel Cornish-Bowden:
> On 2024-05-31 21:06:53 +0000, Aidan Kehoe said:
>
> > Ar an t-aonú lá is triochad de mí Bealtaine, scríobh Athel Cornish-Bowden:
> >
> > > On 2024-05-31 07:50:03 +0000, Athel Cornish-Bowden said:
> > >
> > > > On 2024-05-30 18:47:03 +0000, Christian Weisgerber said:
> > > >
> > > >> On 2024-05-30, Athel Cornish-Bowden <
me@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>>> No. "Cornish" is not a Cornish name: what would be the point of callig
> > > >>>> someone Cornish if everyone around is Cornish. The name is much more
> > > >>>> common in Devon, just as "Devenish" is more common in Somerset than it
> > > >>>> is in Devon.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I used to know María Teresa Miras Portugal (until she died): she was
> > > >>> Spanish, not Portuguese.
> > > >>
> > > >> Actress Cécile de France is Belgian.
> > > >
> > > > Indeed. I didn't think of her, but I knew she was Belgian.
> > >
> > > An even more prominent example is François Hollande: he is not Dutch, but is
> > > French.
> >
> > Ian Fleming was also British, not from Flanders.
> >
> > Ian Paisley was (and Ian Óg Paisley is) not from Paisley.
> >
> > George C. Scott was from West Virginia, not Scotland.
> >
> > Neither the actor James Franco nor the deceased caudillo of Spain have any
> > immediate family background in Franconia, nor even France.
> >
> > Percy French, Irish songwriter, was not French by nationality.
> >
> > Counterexample; Charles de Gaulle was French, but his name was Dutch.
> >
> > Complication; Chester Nimitz was of recent German descent, but had US
> > nationality; his family name is of Slavic origin but designates a German.
> >
> > I’m sure I could (and we could) keep going with these!
>
> As a possible counterexample, what about Deutsch and Deutscher, which seem to
> be reasonably common surnames in Germany?
https://wiki.genealogy.net/Deutsch_(Familienname) comments:
»Der Name wurde vor allem in Grenzgebieten mit gemischter Bevölkerung gegeben,
später auch jüdischer Name«
I learned for the first time today of Alfred Deutsch-German, an Austrian Jew
who was killed in the Holocaust.
-- ‘As I sat looking up at the Guinness ad, I could never figure out /How your man stayed up on the surfboard after fourteen pints of stout’(C. Moore)