Sujet : Re: The 'have' of possession
De : kehoea (at) *nospam* parhasard.net (Aidan Kehoe)
Groupes : sci.lang alt.usage.englishDate : 30. Apr 2024, 08:40:41
Autres entêtes
Message-ID : <87r0enjo1y.fsf@parhasard.net>
References : 1
User-Agent : Gnus/5.101 (Gnus v5.10.10) XEmacs/21.5-b35 (Linux-aarch64)
Ar an triochadú lá de mí Aibreán, scríobh Peter Moylan:
> [...] An alternative possibility, I suppose, is that this used to be a
> standard feature of IE, one that most of the successor languages eventually
> lost. But that sounds less likely to me.
That’s roughly what the consensus is, though.
https://www.google.com/books?q=%22mihi+est%22+Indo-europeanEarly Latin preferred the dative + sum construction, haber took over with time.
Note that Latin haber (and its Romance descendants) are not related (beyond a
likely Sprachbund effect) to English ‘to have’ and its Germanic relatives.
Similar dynamic with Greek, and I learn today with Tocharian.
I don’t have a neat explanation as to why both Russian and Irish have all the
palatalisation you could want, though!
-- ‘As I sat looking up at the Guinness ad, I could never figure out /How your man stayed up on the surfboard after fourteen pints of stout’(C. Moore)