Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????

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Date : 01. Jul 2024, 08:37:38
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Le 01/07/2024 à 06:56, Hibou a écrit :
Le 01/07/2024 à 04:44, HenHanna a écrit :
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A pair of pants,    or    A pair of trousers
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                  ... ok because each Pair kinda looks like  [2 pipes].
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    ...but...
              "a Pair of Panties" ?????
 There appears to be a class of things that exist only in the plural - a pair of tweezers, scissors, pliers, sunglasses... trousers, underpants, knickers, tights... - things that bifurcate or are made up of two bits. I suppose the briefer garments inherited the plural from longer ones (though a few minutes' searching yields no support for this; briefs were apparently in use in Ancient Egypt). [...]
According to the OED, 'pantalon' (Italian-French) goes back to the comic character Pantaloon, who wore a kind of mediaeval onesie (~1592 onwards in English). With the sense of 'trousers', and usually in the plural, it goes back to ~1661. 'Panties' for menswear goes back to ~1845 ("now rare"), for women's underpants to ~1904.
"As she laid herself out to stride, the other fellows used to get a fine exhibition of absolutely naked girl from the waist down (for panties were the rare exception, and not the rule then)" - 'Sydney Sportsman', 1904/08/24.

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1 Jul 24 * "a Pair of Panties" ?????60HenHanna
1 Jul 24 `* Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????59Hibou
1 Jul 24  +* Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????6Hibou
1 Jul 24  i+- Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????1Kerr-Mudd, John
2 Jul 24  i+- Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????1Adam Funk
3 Jul 24  i`* Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????3Antonio Marques
3 Jul 24  i +- Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????1Hibou
3 Jul 24  i `- Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????1Adam Funk
1 Jul 24  +* Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????17occam
2 Jul 24  i`* Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????16Hibou
2 Jul 24  i +- Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????1Hibou
3 Jul 24  i +* Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????5Antonio Marques
3 Jul 24  i i+- Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????1Chris Elvidge
4 Jul 24  i i`* Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????3Hibou
4 Jul 24  i i `* Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????2Adam Funk
5 Jul 24  i i  `- Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????1Adam Funk
3 Jul 24  i `* Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????9Janet
3 Jul 24  i  +* Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????2Rich Ulrich
4 Jul 24  i  i`- Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????1Peter Moylan
4 Jul 24  i  `* Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????6Hibou
4 Jul 24  i   `* Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????5Snidely
4 Jul 24  i    +* Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????2Hibou
4 Jul 24  i    i`- Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????1Snidely
5 Jul 24  i    +- Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????1Antonio Marques
5 Jul 24  i    `- Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????1Peter Moylan
1 Jul 24  +* Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????15Janet
1 Jul 24  i+* Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????13Hibou
1 Jul 24  ii`* Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????12Sn!pe
2 Jul 24  ii `* Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????11Peter Moylan
2 Jul 24  ii  +* Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????6Sn!pe
2 Jul 24  ii  i`* Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????5Peter Moylan
2 Jul 24  ii  i `* Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????4Sn!pe
2 Jul 24  ii  i  `* Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????3Snidely
3 Jul 24  ii  i   +- Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????1Sn!pe
3 Jul 24  ii  i   `- Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????1Peter Moylan
3 Jul 24  ii  +* Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????3Antonio Marques
3 Jul 24  ii  i`* Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????2Chris Elvidge
3 Jul 24  ii  i `- Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????1Sn!pe
3 Jul 24  ii  `- Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????1Janet
1 Jul 24  i`- Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????1Snidely
2 Jul 24  +* Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????5Christian Weisgerber
2 Jul 24  i`* Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????4Peter Moylan
2 Jul 24  i +- Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????1lar3ryca
2 Jul 24  i +- Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????1Adam Funk
5 Jul 24  i `- Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????1wugi
4 Jul 24  `* Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????15wugi
5 Jul 24   +* Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????5Peter Moylan
5 Jul 24   i+* Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????2Christian Weisgerber
5 Jul 24   ii`- Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????1Peter Moylan
5 Jul 24   i`* Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????2Antonio Marques
5 Jul 24   i `- Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????1Ross Clark
5 Jul 24   +* Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????4Stefan Ram
5 Jul 24   i`* Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????3Ross Clark
7 Jul 24   i `* Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????2Antonio Marques
7 Jul 24   i  `- Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????1Stefan Ram
6 Jul 24   `* Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????5Snidely
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6 Jul 24    `* Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????3Ruud Harmsen
6 Jul 24     +- Re: "a Pair of Panties" ?????1Christian Weisgerber
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