Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...

Le 29/07/2024 à 17:21, Rich Ulrich a écrit :

Hibou wrote:

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In Usenet forums, I don't think deliberate lying is much of a problem,
but people are often mistaken. It's hard to admit that one is in error;
it throws doubt on one's ability. Also, our beliefs are part of who we
are; to let one go is to lose part of oneself.

 You are still missing the idea that autistics often 'relate
differently' to the idea of truth vs. falsehood; 'innocent mistake' is
not in their working vocabulary.

Is it not?
Perhaps there has been some drift in this discussion. I think its starting point was your message <news:fk8aajpcod5eeq8okojbonqtslbnujm92m@4ax.com> (Sat. 27th at 12:52:19 -0400) in which you described a character who refused to admit error and called contradictors stupid and liars. You went on to infer that he therefore had autism.
I think this inference is shaky.
I've been called stupid countless times, especially in Usenet fora, and met many who have clung to demonstrably false beliefs (dear old fr.soc.religion in its heyday!) - too many, I think, to infer that they were all suffering from some syndrome or other. It's just human nature, innit?
Citation du jour : « Passer pour un idiot aux yeux d'un imbécile est un délice de fin gourmet » - Simenon (ou Courteline, peut-être, formulée autrement ; les sources se contredisent).

I don't know how much of their problem is created or influenced
by the aftermath of their own social ineptness -- a feature
have not been discussing. The Usenet autism group once posted
a note by a woman who said that her child's kindergarten teacher
praised the daughter for her 'maturity' since she never joined in
when kids were bullying or hassling. The teacher did not
recognize that the daughter was not mature, she simply did not
UNDERSTAND why the  bullying was taking place; she did not
join in automatically, because she did not fit in.
 Aspies are not insulted by the same things neurotypicals
consider insulting, so they make social mistakes. They get called
Stupid or Liar when they claim they did not UNDERSTAND that
someone would (or would not) be offended by something.
" - Okay, you insulted my shirt.  My mama picked it out, not me.
Why should I be offended?"  Or the Aspie might insult a shirt,
while imagining they were offering a trivial observation. [...]

Goodness me! I am learning a lot. (I have Asperger's myself.)