Sujet : Re: To waffle, 'to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither'
De : kehoea (at) *nospam* parhasard.net (Aidan Kehoe)
Groupes : sci.lang alt.usage.englishDate : 26. Apr 2024, 08:26:55
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Ar an séú lá is fiche de mí Aibreán, scríobh Steve Hayes:
> On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 09:19:58 +0100, Aidan Kehoe <
kehoea@parhasard.net>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Ar an cúigiú lá is fiche de mí Aibreán, scríobh Steve Hayes:
> >
> > > >Speaking (in sci.lang) of Andy Grove, he uses waffle in the above sense in
> > > >his good, well-edited ‘High Output Management.’ In my youth I would only
> > > >have used or understood the word in the meaning ‘to ramble on, to say
> > > >nothing of much consequence,’ and OED2 documents that the
> > > >fail-to-make-a-decision sense is colloquial or non-standard.
> > >
> > > What is the "above" sense?
> >
> >The one in the subject, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither.’
>
> Ah, I didn't read it like that. I might have done so if the comma
> after "waffle" had been replaced by a colon.
>
> > > >I presume I have misunderstood various Americans over the years in not
> > > >picking up on the ‘dither’ meaning. How universal is that meaning over
> > > >there?
> > >
> > > For what values of "that"?
> >
> >“Dither,” to fail to make a decision when making a decision would be
> >appropriate.
>
> As in the driver of a car on a multilane highway being unable to
> decide which lane they want to drive in, and holding up the following
> traffic while they try to decide?
For example!
Another really common one comes up when a consulting firm (e.g. Accenture) is
hired. The people hiring the consulting firm are the managers of the relevant
business, and their job as managers is to understand and to assess the
conditions of their business and to make decisions based on that understanding
and that assessment, in order to improve their business. They are hiring the
consulting firm to understand and to assess their business and to come up with
decisions based on that understanding and assessment in order that the business
can be improved ...
-- ‘As I sat looking up at the Guinness ad, I could never figure out /How your man stayed up on the surfboard after fourteen pints of stout’(C. Moore)
Date | Sujet | # | | Auteur |
25 Apr 24 | To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’ | 33 | | Aidan Kehoe |
25 Apr 24 | Re: To waffle, 'to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither' | 6 | | Steve Hayes |
25 Apr 24 | Re: To waffle, 'to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither' | 5 | | Aidan Kehoe |
26 Apr 24 | Re: To waffle, 'to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither' | 4 | | Steve Hayes |
26 Apr 24 | Re: To waffle, 'to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither' | 3 | | Aidan Kehoe |
26 Apr 24 | Re: To waffle, 'to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither' | 2 | | Chris Elvidge |
26 Apr 24 | Re: To waffle, 'to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither' | 1 | | lar3ryca |
25 Apr 24 | Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’ | 4 | | Ross Clark |
25 Apr 24 | Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’ | 3 | | Christian Weisgerber |
26 Apr 24 | Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’ | 2 | | Tilde |
28 Apr 24 | Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’ | 1 | | Antonio Marques |
25 Apr 24 | Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’ | 19 | | jerryfriedman |
25 Apr 24 | Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’ | 17 | | Bertel Lund Hansen |
26 Apr 24 | Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’ | 1 | | Peter Moylan |
28 Apr 24 | Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’ | 15 | | Antonio Marques |
29 Apr 24 | Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’ | 2 | | Bertel Lund Hansen |
29 Apr 24 | Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’ | 1 | | Antonio Marques |
30 Apr 24 | Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’ | 12 | | jerryfriedman |
30 Apr 24 | Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’ | 11 | | Antonio Marques |
30 Apr 24 | Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’ | 10 | | jerryfriedman |
1 May 24 | Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’ | 9 | | Antonio Marques |
2 May 24 | Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’ | 7 | | Aidan Kehoe |
2 May 24 | Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’ | 1 | | Snidely |
4 May 24 | Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’ | 5 | | jerryfriedman |
24 Jun 24 | Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’ | 4 | | Aidan Kehoe |
24 Jun 24 | Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’ | 3 | | jerryfriedman |
24 Jun 24 | Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’ | 2 | | Antonio Marques |
25 Jun 24 | Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’ | 1 | | jerryfriedman |
4 May 24 | Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’ | 1 | | jerryfriedman |
25 Apr 24 | Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’ | 1 | | lar3ryca |
25 Apr 24 | Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’ | 1 | | Christian Weisgerber |
25 Apr 24 | Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’ | 2 | | Tony Cooper |
25 Apr 24 | Re: To waffle, ?to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither? | 1 | | LionelEdwards |