Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’

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Sujet : Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’
De : snidely.too (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Snidely)
Groupes : sci.lang alt.usage.english
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Date : 02. May 2024, 07:21:19
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On Wednesday, Aidan Kehoe queried:
 Ar an chéad lá de mí Bealtaine, scríobh Antonio Marques: >
Never mind that in the bit that Steve quoted to flippantly inquire on
what 'that' meant, it was quite explicitly said 'dither'.
 The "it" there isn't idiomatic 
The sentence sounded wrong to me, but even now I'm not sure why.
As to 'it', maybe it's not idiomatic, but is it ungrammatical? I don't
quite see it.
 "It" refers to "dither",
 No, it's an impersonal passive, and I've just found out that for the last
30/40 years I may have been using a construct that english doesn't have.
>
English does have an impersonal passive, and and what you wrote is grammatical, but again, not idiomatic. No one would have noticed or commented except that the sentence was posted to alt.usage.english. For me this formulating it so:
>
  “Never mind that the bit, that Steve quoted to flippantly inquire on what
  ‘that’ meant, explicitly said ‘dither’”
>
reads a little more idiomatic.
I don't like the commas, despite the length of the phrase identifying the bit.
/dps
--
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instead, and see how that works out.
     -- Katy Jennison

Date Sujet#  Auteur
25 Apr 24 * To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’33Aidan Kehoe
25 Apr 24 +* Re: To waffle, 'to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither'6Steve Hayes
25 Apr 24 i`* Re: To waffle, 'to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither'5Aidan Kehoe
26 Apr 24 i `* Re: To waffle, 'to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither'4Steve Hayes
26 Apr 24 i  `* Re: To waffle, 'to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither'3Aidan Kehoe
26 Apr 24 i   `* Re: To waffle, 'to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither'2Chris Elvidge
26 Apr 24 i    `- Re: To waffle, 'to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither'1lar3ryca
25 Apr 24 +* Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’4Ross Clark
25 Apr 24 i`* Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’3Christian Weisgerber
26 Apr 24 i `* Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’2Tilde
28 Apr 24 i  `- Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’1Antonio Marques
25 Apr 24 +* Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’19jerryfriedman
25 Apr 24 i+* Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’17Bertel Lund Hansen
26 Apr 24 ii+- Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’1Peter Moylan
28 Apr 24 ii`* Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’15Antonio Marques
29 Apr 24 ii +* Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’2Bertel Lund Hansen
29 Apr 24 ii i`- Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’1Antonio Marques
30 Apr 24 ii `* Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’12jerryfriedman
30 Apr 24 ii  `* Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’11Antonio Marques
30 Apr 24 ii   `* Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’10jerryfriedman
1 May 24 ii    `* Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’9Antonio Marques
2 May 24 ii     +* Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’7Aidan Kehoe
2 May 24 ii     i+- Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’1Snidely
4 May 24 ii     i`* Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’5jerryfriedman
24 Jun 24 ii     i `* Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’4Aidan Kehoe
24 Jun 24 ii     i  `* Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’3jerryfriedman
24 Jun 24 ii     i   `* Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’2Antonio Marques
25 Jun 24 ii     i    `- Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’1jerryfriedman
4 May 24 ii     `- Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’1jerryfriedman
25 Apr 24 i`- Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’1lar3ryca
25 Apr 24 +- Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’1Christian Weisgerber
25 Apr 24 `* Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’2Tony Cooper
25 Apr 24  `- Re: To waffle, ?to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither?1LionelEdwards

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