Sujet : Re: Official German spelling update
De : no_email (at) *nospam* invalid.invalid (Antonio Marques)
Groupes : sci.langDate : 16. Jul 2024, 16:22:07
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Ruud Harmsen <
rh@rudhar.com> wrote:
15 Jul 2024 19:46:05 GMT: ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram)
scribeva:
ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) wrote or quoted:
understand the expression "Vielen Dank!" we can't analyze
it further. It's opaque to us.
The "vielen" feels as if the formally singular "Dank" is taken
"semantically" to be a plural.
Why? It's a singular masculin accusative!
Be that as it may, that's precisely how I've felt about it for a long time,
and the mismatch is what prompted me to ask for clarification.
And to read it as a count noun, I'd need 'viel' rather than 'vielen'. Cf
'viel Glück', not 'vieles'.
So I rather thought it was a fossil form, possibly misanalyzed to the
mondegreen point, maybe even missing a syllable at the end, or /dank/ not
even being originally the noun form.
That some confusion does exist around it seems to be supported by Stefan's
quotations.