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Date : 26. Jul 2024, 09:51:31
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Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 12:41:13 -0700, HenHanna <HenHanna@devnull.tb>
wrote:
 
On 7/22/2024 9:40 PM, Steve Hayes wrote:
PTD was a regular in sci.lang via Googlegroups, and suddenly jumped
into aue as a result of something that was crossposted there.
 
When was that?
 
I can't remember exactly, but probably about 15-20 years ago.
 
The instance I remember most was when he denied that the town of El
Paso, Illinois, existed, and continued to deny its existence no matter
what evidence was put before him.
 
(thanks... i'll look that up)
 
The instance I remember most was when he (PTD) opined that Most
Chinese words consisted of 2 Chinese characters.
 
I and another person gave examples
("Wo ai ni",
Wood, Water, sky, river, person, paper, ...
Most basic words and verbs are 1-character)
 
but that was when  PTD  became  [quintessentially PTD].
 
 
i couldn't quite tell
1. if he was  convinced of some fact, info, or assertion, or
2. if he was  just being like a 5 year old boy.

3. He was right (as usual), as in this specific case. That some of the core
vocabulary is the shortest applies to almost any language and as such is
not relevant to the discussion.

In his own field he had some useful information, but outside his field
he could be very dogmatic about things that he simply got wrong.
 

People desperately tried to jump on every unqualified statement of his for
some interpretation that would make him 'wrong'. What almost everyone does
is raise an objection to that course of action, but he consistently chose
to ignore that path, which in a way makes the other feel not acknowledged
as an interlocutor. That caused a huge amount of resentment, but who is to
blame? The answer depends on the degree of good faith on the part of those
trying to 'correct' him.

Then of course he may over the course of years have been wrong about things
he pronounced himself categorically on, but he was always very cautious
with that.

There was stuff about which he said questionable things, but not while
pretending to be some kind of authority.

Maybe he'll get back one of these days. Usenet is just not something that
is effortless to setup. Istr someone got it running for him in the 90s, and
then when that computer broke down there was GG to make it effortless. I'm
sure he could have the expertise to get it running again, but it's probably
not that worthwhile. Not the setup, but the whole being on Usenet thing.
sci.lang has been down to a handful of commenters for a decade now.


Date Sujet#  Auteur
23 Jul 24 * Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...55Steve Hayes
25 Jul 24 `* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...54HenHanna
26 Jul 24  `* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...53Steve Hayes
26 Jul 24   +- Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...1Rich Ulrich
26 Jul 24   +* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...43Antonio Marques
26 Jul 24   i+* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...14Stefan Ram
26 Jul 24   ii+* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...11Stefan Ram
26 Jul 24   iii`* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...10Antonio Marques
26 Jul 24   iii +* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...8Stefan Ram
26 Jul 24   iii i`* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...7Antonio Marques
26 Jul 24   iii i +- Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...1Stefan Ram
26 Jul 24   iii i +* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...2Stefan Ram
26 Jul 24   iii i i`- Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...1Stefan Ram
26 Jul 24   iii i `* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...3Helmut Richter
27 Jul 24   iii i  `* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...2Christian Weisgerber
27 Jul 24   iii i   `- Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...1Peter Moylan
26 Jul 24   iii `- Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...1Stefan Ram
26 Jul 24   ii`* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...2Stefan Ram
26 Jul 24   ii `- Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...1Stefan Ram
26 Jul 24   i+* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...4jerryfriedman
26 Jul 24   ii`* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...3Tony Cooper
27 Jul 24   ii `* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...2occam
28 Jul 24   ii  `- Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...1Steve Hayes
26 Jul 24   i+* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...4lar3ryca
27 Jul 24   ii+* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...2Tony Cooper
28 Jul 24   iii`- Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...1occam
28 Jul 24   ii`- Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...1Peter Moylan
27 Jul 24   i`* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...20Steve Hayes
27 Jul 24   i `* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...19Peter Moylan
27 Jul 24   i  `* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...18Rich Ulrich
27 Jul 24   i   +* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...2Stefan Ram
28 Jul 24   i   i`- Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...1Rich Ulrich
28 Jul 24   i   +* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...13occam
28 Jul 24   i   i+* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...11Hibou
28 Jul 24   i   ii`* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...10Rich Ulrich
28 Jul 24   i   ii +* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...3occam
29 Jul 24   i   ii i`* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...2Snidely
29 Jul 24   i   ii i `- Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...1Rich Ulrich
29 Jul 24   i   ii `* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...6Hibou
29 Jul 24   i   ii  `* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...5Rich Ulrich
29 Jul 24   i   ii   `* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...4Hibou
29 Jul 24   i   ii    `* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...3Rich Ulrich
30 Jul 24   i   ii     `* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...2Hibou
2 Aug 24   i   ii      `- Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...1Rich Ulrich
28 Jul 24   i   i`- Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...1Rich Ulrich
28 Jul 24   i   `* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...2Stefan Ram
29 Jul 24   i    `- Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...1Stefan Ram
26 Jul 24   `* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...8Christian Weisgerber
27 Jul 24    +- Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...1Steve Hayes
28 Jul 24    `* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...6jerryfriedman
29 Jul 24     +* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...4Ruud Harmsen
29 Jul 24     i`* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...3jerryfriedman
29 Jul 24     i +- Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...1Ruud Harmsen
30 Jul 24     i `- Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...1Steve Hayes
30 Aug 24     `- Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...1Ross Clark

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