Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...

Le 29/07/2024 à 22:24, Rich Ulrich a écrit :

Hibou wrote:

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I've been called stupid countless times, especially in Usenet fora, and
met many who have clung to demonstrably false beliefs (dear old
fr.soc.religion in its heyday!) - too many, I think, to infer that they
were all suffering from some syndrome or other. It's just human nature,
innit?

 I will repeat, neurotypicals (NTs) and Aspies overlap a lot. But when
a person shows a bunch of separate, rare traits ...

I don't think clinging to debating positions is rare, and dismissing critics as stupid or liars is one way of doing so. (It reminds me of dictatorships.)

that is what
adds up to a diagnosis. And, How often does a behavior show up?
  I counted at one time -- in a month, Bob called 11 different people
Stupid or Liar.  Or it might have been about that many for each
word (it's been a long time). Do you excuse that as 'human nature'?

I don't excuse it at all.

I found myself interacting with him a lot because I had sort of taken
on the task of a monitor in the stats groups,

A self-appointed moderator?

and he was prone to
(even) start out, like, "You must be stupid to ask THAT."  This was
from a guy who spent his working life as a college professor who
was not well liked by his students (and there is another story,
there).

He appears to have been a big influence in your life.

I don't know how much of their problem is created or influenced
by the aftermath of their own social ineptness -- a feature
have not been discussing. The Usenet autism group once posted
a note by a woman who said that her child's kindergarten teacher
praised the daughter for her 'maturity' since she never joined in
when kids were bullying or hassling. The teacher did not
recognize that the daughter was not mature, she simply did not
UNDERSTAND why the  bullying was taking place; she did not
join in automatically, because she did not fit in.
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Aspies are not insulted by the same things neurotypicals
consider insulting, so they make social mistakes. They get called
Stupid or Liar when they claim they did not UNDERSTAND that
someone would (or would not) be offended by something.
" - Okay, you insulted my shirt.  My mama picked it out, not me.
Why should I be offended?"  Or the Aspie might insult a shirt,
while imagining they were offering a trivial observation. [...]

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Goodness me! I am learning a lot. (I have Asperger's myself.)

 You're welcome?

Do please continue. I'm eager to learn more.