Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?

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Sujet : Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?
De : rich.ulrich (at) *nospam* comcast.net (Rich Ulrich)
Groupes : sci.lang alt.usage.english
Date : 02. Sep 2024, 05:04:55
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On Sun, 01 Sep 2024 15:39:20 -0400, Tony Cooper
<tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sun, 01 Sep 2024 18:36:10 +0200, Steve Hayes
<hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>
On Sat, 31 Aug 2024 22:17:55 +0100, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
>
Cradle boards and other child carriers used by Native Americans are known by
various names. In Algonquin history, the term papoose is sometimes used to
refer to a child carrier.?
 
Given I am 43 and fairly well-read I can assert that it has basically no
currency outside the US.
>
  The native-American "papoose" back-board child carrier
was known to me in early childhood (and probably every
other kid enthralled by "Cowboys and Indians".
>
   When we had children I rediscovered it all over again
thanks to Mothercare. We had a baby back carrier called a
papoose.
>
So it seems that people within the US understand "papoose" as
referring to a child, and outside the US it refers to a child holder?
>
>
Please...write "some people".
>
If I see an (American) Indian with a baby in a carrier strapped to her
back, I would describe that as a woman with a papoose.
>
However, if she removes the baby from the carrier and puts the baby on
a blanket on the ground, I would not say the baby is a "papoose".

I thought that the baby would stay in the carrier when laid on
the ground.  I thought they followed the baby-handling tradition
of keeping them bound up. 

I had not ever been challenged with an Indian baby on the
loose, and someone looking for a word to describe them.

From the earlier discussion, I conclude that only the bound
baby is a papoose.

--
Rich Ulrich


Date Sujet#  Auteur
31 Aug 24 * Word of the day: “Papoose”44Aidan Kehoe
31 Aug 24 +* Re: Word of the day: “Papoose”2LionelEdwards
1 Sep 24 i`- Re: Word of the day: “Papoose”1Aidan Kehoe
31 Aug 24 +* Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?23Janet
1 Sep 24 i+* Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?21Steve Hayes
1 Sep 24 ii+- Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?1Ken Blake
1 Sep 24 ii+- Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?1Jeff Barnett
1 Sep 24 ii`* Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?18Tony Cooper
2 Sep 24 ii +* Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?6Rich Ulrich
2 Sep 24 ii i`* Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?5Tony Cooper
2 Sep 24 ii i `* Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?4Janet
2 Sep 24 ii i  +- Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?1Peter Moylan
2 Sep 24 ii i  `* Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?2Tony Cooper
2 Sep 24 ii i   `- Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?1jerryfriedman
2 Sep 24 ii `* Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?11Steve Hayes
2 Sep 24 ii  +- Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?1Peter Moylan
2 Sep 24 ii  +* Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?2Tony Cooper
3 Sep 24 ii  i`- Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?1Steve Hayes
3 Sep 24 ii  `* Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?7Aidan Kehoe
3 Sep 24 ii   `* Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?6Steve Hayes
3 Sep 24 ii    +* Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?2lar3ryca
4 Sep 24 ii    i`- Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?1Anders D. Nygaard
4 Sep 24 ii    `* Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?3Peter Moylan
4 Sep 24 ii     +- Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?1Ross Clark
4 Sep 24 ii     `- Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?1Steve Hayes
6 Sep 24 i`- Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?1Joy Beeson
31 Aug 24 +* Re: Word of the day: “Papoose”14Snidely
7 Sep 24 i`* Re: Word of the day: “Papoose”13Snidely
7 Sep 24 i `* Re: Word of the day: “Papoose”12Aidan Kehoe
7 Sep 24 i  `* Re: Word of the day: “Papoose”11Bertel Lund Hansen
7 Sep 24 i   +- Re: Word of the day: “Papoose”1Aidan Kehoe
8 Sep 24 i   `* Sprog9Steve Hayes
8 Sep 24 i    +- Re: Sprog1Chris Elvidge
8 Sep 24 i    `* Re: Sprog7Peter Moylan
8 Sep 24 i     +- Re: Sprog1Bertel Lund Hansen
8 Sep 24 i     +- Re: Sprog1Kerr-Mudd, John
9 Sep 24 i     `* Re: Sprog4Steve Hayes
9 Sep 24 i      `* Re: Sprog3Snidely
9 Sep 24 i       +- Re: Sprog1jerryfriedman
9 Sep 24 i       `- Re: Sprog1jerryfriedman
31 Aug 24 +* Re: Word of the day: “Papoose”2lar3ryca
1 Sep 24 i`- Re: Word of the day: “Papoose”1Peter Moylan
1 Sep 24 +- Re: Word of the day: “Papoose”1Tony Cooper
1 Sep 24 `- Re: Word of the day: “Papoose”1Steve Hayes

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