Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?

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Sujet : Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?
De : hayesstw (at) *nospam* telkomsa.net (Steve Hayes)
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Date : 03. Sep 2024, 04:11:25
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On Mon, 02 Sep 2024 11:45:58 -0400, Tony Cooper
<tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, 2 Sep 2024 12:33:02 -0000 (UTC), Steve Hayes
<hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>
On Sun, 01 Sep 2024 15:39:20 -0400, Tony Cooper wrote:
>
So it seems that people within the US understand "papoose" as referring
to a child, and outside the US it refers to a child holder?
 
 
Please...write "some people".
 
If I see an (American) Indian with a baby in a carrier strapped to her
back, I would describe that as a woman with a papoose.
 
However, if she removes the baby from the carrier and puts the baby on a
blanket on the ground, I would not say the baby is a "papoose".
 
You seem to want "people" in the US to all view things the same.
>
The OP said (I think quoting a dictionary or some such source) that in AmE
"papoose" meant a child, but everyone from outside the US whose comments
I have seen seems to think it means a child holder.
>
Perhaps the OP could clarify.
>
You have participated in this group long enough to know that a
dictionary cite does not at all indicate 100% or near-all usage of
some words.
>
That assumes that all Americans (in this case) look up a word to gain
the definition.  In fact, the majority of Americans gain a definition
by how the word is/was used in the instance(s) where they first or
commonly come across it.

Yes, but I have also been in this group long enough to know that
dictionaries often reflect rather than determine popular usage.

Dictionaries go to people as much as, if not more than, people go to
dictionaries.


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Date Sujet#  Auteur
31 Aug 24 * Word of the day: “Papoose”44Aidan Kehoe
31 Aug 24 +* Re: Word of the day: “Papoose”2LionelEdwards
1 Sep 24 i`- Re: Word of the day: “Papoose”1Aidan Kehoe
31 Aug 24 +* Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?23Janet
1 Sep 24 i+* Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?21Steve Hayes
1 Sep 24 ii+- Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?1Ken Blake
1 Sep 24 ii+- Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?1Jeff Barnett
1 Sep 24 ii`* Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?18Tony Cooper
2 Sep 24 ii +* Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?6Rich Ulrich
2 Sep 24 ii i`* Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?5Tony Cooper
2 Sep 24 ii i `* Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?4Janet
2 Sep 24 ii i  +- Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?1Peter Moylan
2 Sep 24 ii i  `* Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?2Tony Cooper
2 Sep 24 ii i   `- Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?1jerryfriedman
2 Sep 24 ii `* Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?11Steve Hayes
2 Sep 24 ii  +- Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?1Peter Moylan
2 Sep 24 ii  +* Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?2Tony Cooper
3 Sep 24 ii  i`- Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?1Steve Hayes
3 Sep 24 ii  `* Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?7Aidan Kehoe
3 Sep 24 ii   `* Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?6Steve Hayes
3 Sep 24 ii    +* Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?2lar3ryca
4 Sep 24 ii    i`- Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?1Anders D. Nygaard
4 Sep 24 ii    `* Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?3Peter Moylan
4 Sep 24 ii     +- Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?1Ross Clark
4 Sep 24 ii     `- Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?1Steve Hayes
6 Sep 24 i`- Re: Word of the day: ?Papoose?1Joy Beeson
31 Aug 24 +* Re: Word of the day: “Papoose”14Snidely
7 Sep 24 i`* Re: Word of the day: “Papoose”13Snidely
7 Sep 24 i `* Re: Word of the day: “Papoose”12Aidan Kehoe
7 Sep 24 i  `* Re: Word of the day: “Papoose”11Bertel Lund Hansen
7 Sep 24 i   +- Re: Word of the day: “Papoose”1Aidan Kehoe
8 Sep 24 i   `* Sprog9Steve Hayes
8 Sep 24 i    +- Re: Sprog1Chris Elvidge
8 Sep 24 i    `* Re: Sprog7Peter Moylan
8 Sep 24 i     +- Re: Sprog1Bertel Lund Hansen
8 Sep 24 i     +- Re: Sprog1Kerr-Mudd, John
9 Sep 24 i     `* Re: Sprog4Steve Hayes
9 Sep 24 i      `* Re: Sprog3Snidely
9 Sep 24 i       +- Re: Sprog1jerryfriedman
9 Sep 24 i       `- Re: Sprog1jerryfriedman
31 Aug 24 +* Re: Word of the day: “Papoose”2lar3ryca
1 Sep 24 i`- Re: Word of the day: “Papoose”1Peter Moylan
1 Sep 24 +- Re: Word of the day: “Papoose”1Tony Cooper
1 Sep 24 `- Re: Word of the day: “Papoose”1Steve Hayes

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