Re: Somewheres

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Sujet : Re: Somewheres
De : naddy (at) *nospam* mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber)
Groupes : alt.usage.english sci.lang
Date : 14. Sep 2024, 15:59:05
Autres entêtes
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On 2024-09-05, jerryfriedman <jerry.friedman99@gmail.com> wrote:

happened to French <s> has a lot of parallels to what's
happening to English <r> in non-rhotic dialects.  The [r] is
lost, leaving a long vowel as you say, and then <r> is used to
write that vowel (still mostly non-standard, but there are
examples like "Burma" and "argo").  In the same way the
French [s] was lost, leaving long vowels, and then used
to write those vowels as in "resve".

That was a rather specific change of [s] between a vowel and another
consonant.  Yes, it resulted in compensatory lengthening and a new
set of long vowel phonemes.

Closer to home, there's the loss in Middle English of [x]~[ç] after
vowels. (Consistent after front vowels, sometimes shifted to [f]
instead after back vowels.)  That also included compensatory
lengthening of short vowels, e.g. <right> [rɪçt] > [riːt] > [raɪt].

--
Christian "naddy" Weisgerber                          naddy@mips.inka.de

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3 Sep 24 i `- Re: Somewheres1Adam Funk
2 Sep 24 +* Re: Somewheres16Christian Weisgerber
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2 Sep 24 i +* Re: Somewheres11jerryfriedman
4 Sep 24 i i`* Re: Somewheres10Christian Weisgerber
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