Re: from 2 roots meaning the same thing ! --- ( Cas- (cadere) + Kad- )

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Sujet : Re: from 2 roots meaning the same thing ! --- ( Cas- (cadere) + Kad- )
De : benlizro (at) *nospam* ihug.co.nz (Ross Clark)
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Date : 25. Nov 2024, 00:50:23
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On 25/11/2024 10:18 a.m., HenHanna wrote:
On Sun, 24 Nov 2024 20:03:53 +0000, Ross Clark wrote:
 
On 25/11/2024 6:32 a.m., HenHanna wrote:
Etymology
           From French cascade, from Italian cascata, from cascare (“to
fall”), from Vulgar Latin *cāsicāre, derived from Latin cadere,
ultimately from Proto-Indo-European *ḱh₂d-.
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from 2 roots meaning the same thing ! ---  ( Cas- (cadere) +  Kad-  )
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No, two forms of the same root.
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        CasCade=  Falling, then Falling (smaller, plurally)  further
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i guess  MainTain  is sort of like that.
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  from Latin manū (“with/in/by the hand”, ablative of manus) + tenēre
(“to hold”).
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Manipulate,  "manoeuvre" (or "maneuver" in American English)
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Others?   (Same Root  twice) ???
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I can't think of another European example. But in the languages I work
on (Oceanic), formation of a word by reduplication (repeating the same
root) is common. Most often it just refers to multiple events  -- so
"fall-fall" would mean falling again and again, or many things falling.
But the reduplicated word may take on a distinct meaning, e.g. in
Polynesian languages /kau/ 'to swim', /kaukau/ 'to bathe'.
  Thank you...
 Since Duplication and
    Reduplication means the same thing...
Only at some very general level. Linguists use "reduplication" for a particular morphological device. "Duplication" is not an alternative name for this.
"Reduplication" may contain a certain redundancy, but language is full of redundancy.

    Reduplicate  arguably   contains the same Root twice.
Not if you understand what "root" means.

名詞の畳語に「する」を加えた動詞(「子供子供した人」「官僚官僚していな い」)は、そのものが表す典型的性質をもつ、といった意味となる。形容詞の部 分畳語では「すがすがしい」「あらあらしい」など畳語に「しい」を加えたもの がある。
  ---------  「子供子供した子供」
             means...   a Child who seems  so "canonically"  a Child.
             ---   expresses the  Echt-  ness.
  sort of like the expression  [a Poet's Poet]

Date Sujet#  Auteur
24 Nov 24 * Re: from 2 roots meaning the same thing ! --- ( Cas- (cadere) + Kad- )5Ross Clark
24 Nov 24 `* Re: from 2 roots meaning the same thing ! --- ( Cas- (cadere) + Kad- )4HenHanna
25 Nov 24  `* Re: from 2 roots meaning the same thing ! --- ( Cas- (cadere) + Kad- )3Ross Clark
25 Nov 24   `* Re: from 2 roots meaning the same thing ! --- ( Cas- (cadere) + Kad- )2wugi
27 Nov 24    `- Re: from 2 roots meaning the same thing ! --- ( Cas- (cadere) + Kad- )1Christian Weisgerber

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