Re: from 2 roots meaning the same thing ! --- ( Cas- (cadere) + Kad- )

Op 24/11/2024 om 20:50 schreef Ross Clark:

On 25/11/2024 10:18 a.m., HenHanna wrote:

On Sun, 24 Nov 2024 20:03:53 +0000, Ross Clark wrote:
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On 25/11/2024 6:32 a.m., HenHanna wrote:

Etymology
           From French cascade, from Italian cascata, from cascare (“to
fall”), from Vulgar Latin *cāsicāre, derived from Latin cadere,
ultimately from Proto-Indo-European *ḱh₂d-.

A reduplication *cadcadere > *cascadere > *cascare
seems highly possible to me.
French cascader (< cascade < cascata) is like coming back to the original.
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i guess  MainTain  is sort of like that.
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  from Latin manū (“with/in/by the hand”, ablative of manus) + tenēre
(“to hold”).

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Manipulate,  "manoeuvre" (or "maneuver" in American English)
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Others?   (Same Root  twice) ???

Not the same root (as Ross told you), but the same semantic meaning.

I can't think of another European example. (...)

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    Reduplicate  arguably   contains the same Root twice.

 Not if you understand what "root" means.

As a "same meaning reduplication" word, I think of Dutch *diefstal*, taken ("stolen";) from German, obviously with double kleptic meaning (thief, stealing). Older Dutch was *diefte* ~ E. theft.
An apparently "internal contradiction" word is *volledig*, complete, which seemingly contains *vol*, full, and *ledig ~ leeg*, empty. Only that here the ledig part stems from *het lid, de leden*, member(s). Full-membered.
A word apparently meaning the same as its opposite is *guur/onguur*. But the shorter form stems from its negative, in different registers:
Guur weer. Een onguur type. Bleak weather. A sinister bloke.
Same in German, it would seem: geheuer, ungeheuer.
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guido wugi