Re: from 2 roots meaning the same thing ! --- ( Cas- (cadere) + Kad- )

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Sujet : Re: from 2 roots meaning the same thing ! --- ( Cas- (cadere) + Kad- )
De : naddy (at) *nospam* mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber)
Groupes : sci.lang
Date : 27. Nov 2024, 17:40:49
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On 2024-11-25, wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> wrote:

A word apparently meaning the same as its opposite is *guur/onguur*. But
the shorter form stems from its negative, in different registers:
Guur weer. Een onguur type. Bleak weather. A sinister bloke.
Same in German, it would seem: geheuer, ungeheuer.

No, those are opposites in German.  Nowadays, "geheuer" is only
used in explicitly negated form, though, "nicht geheuer".  Meanwhile,
"ungeheuer" as a negation of "geheuer" can be found in older
literature but is otherwise obsolete, its meaning has shifted to a
general intensifier.

However, the prefix "un-" can serve both as an intensifier and a
negation in German.  The textbook example is "Untiefe", which can
mean both 'shallows' and 'abyss'.

--
Christian "naddy" Weisgerber                          naddy@mips.inka.de

Date Sujet#  Auteur
24 Nov 24 * Re: from 2 roots meaning the same thing ! --- ( Cas- (cadere) + Kad- )5Ross Clark
24 Nov 24 `* Re: from 2 roots meaning the same thing ! --- ( Cas- (cadere) + Kad- )4HenHanna
25 Nov 24  `* Re: from 2 roots meaning the same thing ! --- ( Cas- (cadere) + Kad- )3Ross Clark
25 Nov 24   `* Re: from 2 roots meaning the same thing ! --- ( Cas- (cadere) + Kad- )2wugi
27 Nov 24    `- Re: from 2 roots meaning the same thing ! --- ( Cas- (cadere) + Kad- )1Christian Weisgerber

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