Re: OK, .. Let's See :-)

On 7/5/25 12:15 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:

   The nuclear inspectors of IAEA left Iran :) They'll never go back to Iran. Iran had not officially asked them to leave. They left because they feared with new documents Iran has obtained, they could get arrested as spies. Oh, they won't go back to Iran!
 And boy, they were in a hurry. Didn't wait till air travel opens up (it got open today); they took the ground routes and hurriedly got themselves to Armenia.
  Iranian researchers have given out their own calculations of the cost of the 12 day war for Israel: $40 Billion! .. This isn't bullshit, by the way. It is gold in this sea of lies spread around this war about the toll Israelis paid.z
 Very briefly, they've calculated them as:
 - military expenditure = $12.2 Billion
- total indirect economic toll = $21.4 Billion (includes damages to businesses)
- military property destruction = $4.5 Billion
- evacuations and shelter = $2 Billion
 As you see, the consequential economic impact is by itself as high as all other costs combined. This is the number one reality that Israel stays so quiet about. Because it tells too much about Israel's Achilles' heel. War with Iran will solve the problem of Israel for the region.
 So it was a $40 Billion project, this war, for Israel. I don't know how Iran's end of these costs are because part of it is not disclosed to anybody. The fact that Israelis also do not reveal it says a lot, by the way.
 I only know that the military expenditure part of the whole loss has been between $50 Million to $100 Million only, which is that same 0.5% ratio I've mentioned in these blogs over and over. Military stuff costs Israel (and Americans) 200 times more than they do to Iranians.
 I wasn't that far off when I said continuation of the war was suicide for Israel. So let's see the next one coming will end sooner than 12 days or much longer than that :)
 Strategically, it is very much a matter of Ukraine also. Ukraine is absorbing a good part of the munitions and war equipment that would otherwise go to Israel, and directly and immediately from there used against Iran. So Russia (and China) are defending Iran in an indirect way. When the toll for Russia got too high in this, China wisely stepped in to take some of the burden off from Russia. This isn't imagination. It is every bit the reality. It is the number one reason why Ukraine war doesn't end. It had saved, be it temporarily, Syria before and now it helps Iran. The culprits, i.e., the roots of the problem, are Israel and USA's plans with the region that has Iran inside it.
 Today, in fact, Chinese foreign minister told his EU counterpart that China does NOT want war in Ukraine come to an end because what hostility is in Ukraine's war right now will just be transferred and get added to the war with Iran where matters are much more sensitive to China than Ukraine's issue could ever be of importance to them. China buys Iran's oil, and if anybody, including your infant Trump, goes to disturb that, it would mean a direct war with China.
 The EU people listening to him (Chinese foreign minister) were shocked by his straightforward remarks :)
 I think Wang Yi told this to their stupid faces cause he'd become sick of EU's continuous effort to sweep the facts under the rug and call it "politics." Politics is not Israeli way of dealing with facts. It is very much dealing with facts directly and pretty much honestly too!
 I think he heard so much bullshit from those Bitch people about "Why are you helping Russia in this war?" and idiotic nonsense they had asked Trump earlier ("Why are you giving more importance to Israel than Ukraine?"), till at last he had enough of it. Politics is not knowing the answer and yet asking the questions to see if your counterpart knows it too.. That's pitiful. That's what stupid high school smart aleks do, not politicians.
 So I'm not surprised at all that Yi responded like that right into their faces.
 The real war is ongoing while being dormant, and that's a war between USA and China, and a big part of it is over West Asia region where Iran is and has been for thousands of years. It is behind anything that's happening.
  What Trump has been pushing for, is to help Israel against Iran instead of helping Ukraine, because he wants to take the oil that Iran sells to China away from China. And for this, he hopes that Europeans would fill up the gap in help for Ukraine and pay for it out of their own pockets. He thinks this might work. I think it's clear that it won't because the more Europeans compensate for the absence of American weapons and munitions, the larger Russia and China will expand the war in Ukraine, forcing Americans back into spending part of its resources for Ukraine and not Israel, thus keeping Israel at the subsistence level as far as war with Iran is concerned.
 Putin and Xi both hold this card, and they've been using it too for some time now. What I don't know, is whether Russia or China themselves came to this understanding, or, they were "helped" a bit by Iranian politicians, cause I believe Iran has better politicians than Russia and China have as far as matters related to Nazis of USA and Europe are concerned. Iran has had quite a lot of experience in that.
 And this push and pull is ongoing right now. A big batch of armaments belonging to USA that was agreed upon and sent to Poland to be transferred to Ukrainians, was suddenly stopped in Poland. I think Trump wants to get them back from Europe and give them to Israel, which in turn means another attempt from Israel to attack Iran, which consequently will cause Putin and Xi to escalate the war in Ukraine, raising the level of armaments that Ukraine needs to protect itself.
 Trump's plan wins only if Europe would all by themselves prove to be able to sacrifice enough of their resources to fully compensate for what Russia (and China) destroy in Ukraine. I think this plan of Trump had a chance, and only a chance, before China joined, and not after.
 And obviously China joined in because Trump's plan had a chance. I.e. EU collectively might match Russia in resources.
 A lot of Iranians got pretty pissed when neither Russia nor China tactically helped Iran in any direct way, in this 12 day war. I guess they didn't notice that this war caused Ukrainian war to escalate. Putin raised the level of attacks and destruction of Ukraine's armaments. This _caused_ U.S. military armaments get shipped to Europe to be given to Ukraine, after all. But that shipment is now stopped and I'm not aware yet if they've said exactly for what reason.
 Also note that Iran's card of mining the Strait of Hormoz is not just a way of pressuring USA, but very much so pressuring China as well. In fact it will hurt China more than it does to USA. But results are the same regardless. It is a way of throwing China at USA! And Iran can do that. She's even decided it in the parliament and it has been OKed by Guardian Council. It only needs a signature, and less than 15 minutes of time to get done!
     

Now that Iran's calculation of Israeli losses in the 12 day war is out, one British news outlet opened its mouth about the military property destruction part of it, saying a total of 5 military bases and camps were attacked by Iran:
- Tel Nof airbase
- military stuff in Beit Nehemiq
- Camp Glilot
- Irtah
- Camp Zipporit
One of the above is a military data gathering center and another deals with military logistics. Israelis now admit they were hit but quickly claim their "functioning" did not stop. And of course they don't say how much it has cost them. They (both military and the cabinet) haven't denied Iran's calculation of it either :)
Eventually these calculations may prove themselves to be reasonable as the dollar figures of USA and Europe's military assistance to Israel will add up to the right amount. These figures aren't that hard to find.
Using the 5th column for war effort has its consequences. Iranians are claiming that a huge amount of additional information has so far been obtained about Mossad from thousands of individuals who've so far been arrested.
Only one of results among many has been (according to an Arab website) identification and arrest of close to 700 spies inside Iran! These agents are no "5th column" forces, but outright active agents working full time for various foreign countries. This is a feat of achievement. Among them are foreigners as well as Iranians.
How much Israeli/American loss of dollar involves that aspect of expenditure in this war? I bet it is included in the "military expenditure" part of the calculations made.
Earlier I said something about Ukraine being used by Russia and China as a sink for military assistance that USA and Europe have been otherwise delivering to Israel. I mentioned that Russia/China can raise the intensity and cost of Ukraine's war as they wish. I did not say to what extent though :) What is the limit of that? How far will the two countries go in that war to keep wars away from West Asia?
It depends on how important West Asia is to them. I think it is extremely important. It is vital for them indeed. So if Ukraine at some point capitulates, then the war might keep going beyond Ukraine! Already, EU heads of state are saying if they don't raise the levels of military assistance to Ukraine, they might as well begin learning the Russian language :) Hahhahhahahahhh :-))
They said that just today :)
So.. a bit of informed prediction can be done. Americans' dormant war with China can cost Americans the entire Europe; and only then, i.e., when Europe is occupied by Russia, Americans can begin pushing China out of West Asia, this time all by themselves. To say this another way, Israel has to be more important to USA than the entire Europe, not just Ukraine!..
Is that so?..
Just what _is_ Americans' interest in Europe? Has anybody looked into it? Are there any realistic books about it published? Papers sure, but papers aren't open to access by the public anymore. So..
Again, time to step back and look at the big picture.
They cannot hide the big picture inside inaccessible papers :) It always shows itself. And it's free to access. All that's required is to have a dick like Physfit's. So the bottom line is that Americans, at this point, still consider the entire EU as a bargaining card. Why did Trump want to get Greenland and Canada? I think it is because Americans are willing to let EU go to Russians, but not Greenland and Canada, and that they may be getting themselves ready to exchange EU with West Asia between themselves and the Russians/Chinese.
I think Americans will lose the dormant war with China, in both dormant as well as open modes, and will eventually get themselves and their "Israelis" out of West Asia for good. I think it'll be "The Americas" on one side of the Earth, and the rest of the Earth on the other side of it. That's the future arrangement.
Then devouring of cro-magnons by the Modern Humans will begin in both hemispheres. Literally. They'll move to eat you cro-magnons out of this world. You will gradually be defecated out until we won't see a cro-magnon anymore. Things then get a chance to settle at last. We can't have a species so close to humans.