Re: Israeli Faces From Earlier Today :-)

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De : physfitfreak (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Physfitfreak)
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Date : 02. Oct 2024, 05:43:59
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Ok... :) Kicking ass begins!
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Almost 100% of missiles are hitting targets inside Israel. Too fast to defend against. Looks like Iran is not testing things in this one. They want to hit the targets for other reasons.
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Israeli gas establishments on the shores of the Mediterranean, nommo!
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This time, from the beginning, the militia and the military acted simultaneously as opposed to the last time. This also shows no tests are being conducted (the two have very different test needs).
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More than 99 percent of missiles have successfully hit several airfields and some particular targets in Tel Aviv (probably known Mossad buildings). There seems to be no defense against them. They're just too fast for any realistically hitting them in the air.
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The very few which didn't make it to the targets are probably the ones who encountered malfunctioning, and not the result of being intercepted.
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Nevatim is one of the airbases hit, and this time around hit real bad!
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It has only taken 15 minutes for the missiles to reach targets in Israel. This shows many of them are hypersonic.
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An Israeli news outlet is saying their air defense is either destroyed or not working at all. This, again, indicates there's simply no defense against hypersonic missiles and Israelis are just saving their ammo for other types of missiles about which they can get good results.
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Several "Mossad bases" are hit, which shows the civilian targets inside Tel Aviv have indeed been Mossad buildings and hideouts.
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Israeli off-shore gas platforms nommo!
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Just check out the speed of these hypersonic missiles. This link expires in two days:
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Obviously hit a particular target in a civilian area.
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Second wave has just begun. This wave includes slow moving drones as well, which indicates at least in some areas in Israel the air defense is destroyed and targets are open to hit with cheaper and more numerous flying bombs.
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Many many clips are being uploaded to various Telegram channels of how Israeli targets are being hit. Very different from the first time months back. Looke like this time Iran had placed agents inside and around Israel just to record the bombings. Nothing from Israelis themselves are right now being shown. The talking that's heard looks more like Arabic than Hebrew.
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Several targets hit were fortified places that F-35s are being kept at. No word on the results of course.
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The particular Mossad building from where the decision of killing haniyeh in Tehran was made is flattened. Hit multiple times.
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A couple of clips by Israelis in Tel Aviv Shows how some of these missiles are hitting them with no "iron dome" defense in sight. Nothing can stop them.
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Also an Israeli news outlet is saying many Shelters are packed to their maximum capacity and more.
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They're saying Gallant is nowhere to be seen and heard of and it is possible that he has been killed.
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Some of the missiles exhibit maneuvering before hitting their targets. So definitely Fatah ones are being used as well.
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Netanyahu is in hiding (again). Some of his ministers are with him also.
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The militia (of Iran) says they have destroyed 3 airbases around Tel Aviv. They first conducted a vast cyberattack against Israeli air defenses and only then hit their targets.
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A rare clip by a military guy in Israel shows they are all lying on the ground watching the rain of extremely fast moving missiles coming down not that far from them hitting their targets.
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Very different picture this time. Last time was only tests. This time it is kicking ass.
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Iranian news outlet is saying already the requests for purchasing more of Iranian hypersonic missiles are pouring in from various countries around the world, flooding them ... :-) Now they see and believe it!
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Yes they just announced they used Fatah hypersonics with maneuverability.
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Iran has sent a message to Netanyahu saying this is only a tiny piece of what Iran can do to him and other criminals. Iran also told him to stay away from messing with Iran. "Do not get yourselves engaged with Iran!"
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Another Israeli uploaded clip showing the speed of these missiles. This link is only active for 2 days:
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https://streamable.com/blwcxg
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Check that speed!... You want to hit that with "Iron Dome"?...
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Militia is saying they hit the Israeli Arrow system's radars with their Fatah. So these systems will from this point on be quite vulnerable to Iranian attack. Imagine if the warheads are changed to nukes...
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Israel has no defense against Iran. So don't fall for their bullshit.
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Jordan is saying they could not intercept even one Iranian missile.
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Israelis themselves, this time around, are saying "118 missiles" hit their targets inside (and outside in the sea) Israel. Compare that to "two" which they reported last time.
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The message to Israelis I mentioned above was from someone in the military. Just now, Pezeshkyan himself messaged to Israelis telling them, "Do not get yourselves engaged with Iran. This is only a tiny show of force. We can do much more." which hints of nuclear warheads.
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Another very short clip from inside Tel Aviv. This is one of Mossad's headquarters. The link is valid only for 2 days:
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Eye for an eye.
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Third wave is readied, but they're not launched yet. No clue yet what they intend to do.
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Pezeshkiyan's message to Israeli government might mean that the operation has stopped, but Pezeshkiyan is really not the guy who calls such shots. The military guy who messaged them earlier also does not call the shots. Even the Leader does not call the shots in these operations. Only the Militia, and the national security council of Iran calls the shots. Earlier today, national security council informed the military and the Militia to attack Israel. The order did not come from the Leader. His decisions aren't final. They are only guidlines to adhere. The rest is with the militia, and the national security council.
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Iran's leader's responsibilities are slightly different from stuff about these operations, be it he is the Chief Commander.
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Note that American and other ally forces protecting Israel could not intercept any of these missiles (very very few of them were intercepted, if at all - I give it more chance they developed issues on their own). They're too fast. In fact as I mentioned it a few months back, Americans are asking the Japanese to come together and build something that can defend against them. So such defense isn't there yet.
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If it's too fast, and it damn sure is, then physics itself forces for the defense to be a form of laser. As long as such weapons aren't made, these hypersonic missiles will rule the skies. And Iran is by now absolutely packed with them.
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The third wave has not yet been launched. But they're all ready, probably with different warheads in case Israel decides to commit suicide.
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More information about types of targets are pouring in. IDF has been attacked also. And intelligence establishments other than Mossad has also been attacked. Shabak stations and buildings have been hit.
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Ok, the report of the militias themselves now indicates that "at least" 90% of missiles hit their targets. This is where Israelis are saying they intercepted "more than 50%" of the missiles, which gross bullshit as literally all the clips show. In all the clips available, The showers of missiles are either totally unresponded, or sometimes you see one of them fails and burns before hitting the target, probably because of malfunctions, because if they were hit by Iron Dome you'd see many many more such defensive missiles in the skies also trying to hit the incoming ones. But when one of the Iranian missiles are hit, it is always the only thing visible. Nothing else other than other Iranian missiles are in the skies.
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Hehe :) One of israeli TV channels is saying, "Let's accept the fact that these so-called impenetrable defense systems that we have, none of them works!"
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Hahhahhhahhhahh :)))
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They worked up to 10 years back. Things have changed since.
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Ok, if the operation has in fact ended, then the key question is now whether Israel has the guts to attack nuclear and oil establishments of Iran in response, as it claimed just two days back. Netanyahu was saying Israel will attack them if Iran attacks Israel.
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So let's see how this interesting matter unfolds now :-)
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Iran did hit their off-shore gas platforms. The clip was showing them burn very brightly! So it is now a matter of guts.
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I think Israelis in the government are gutless. They're dogs who bite only when their owners are right behind them ready to protect them. As soon as they see they don't have protection, their tails go between their hind legs and they distract the media toward something else.
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Another interesting thing is of course the war in Lebanon. Would Israel dare to invade it as it claimed? That also, by now, is a matter of guts.
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So interesting stuff are in store :)
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Iran's defense minister just now said if Israel attacks Iran, "we will begin coming to destroy Israel." This means that the operation is now completed. The third wave has not been launched.
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Shit. I was making myself ready to see a few more waves, but.. You can't have it all :)
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But then Israel might fuck up again and... so I'll be watching it every now and then.
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At least one Israeli "confirmed dead" :)
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Link expires in 2 days.
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Ghazans hapopy to see Iran's missiles coming down on Israel:
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More hits:
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No news of launch, although even more is now prepared for launch. Even CNN is reporting that :)
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This thing, so far, hasn't become a civilian thing yet. Wait till Israel hurt Iranian civilian to see how Israelis will become the 2nd Ghazans.
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Ok, fresh news now indicates Iran also heavily hit the Netsarim (the area between south and north Ghaza which is under Israeli troops control and invasion to separate the north from the south) and caused heavy damage to Israeli concentrated troops and equipment. Hanieh would very much like that. Ghazans have reported heavy damage to Israeli military facilities in there.
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Netanyahu's hands holding his notes while delivering the response speech tonight was visibly shaking. You could see that by paying attention to the sheets in his hands. That's either too much drinking, or scared shitless that he really doesn't have proper defense against being nuked.
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I just watched his speech one more time. The camera man zooms in every time his hands' shaking become too apparent to hide it off the frame of camera. They did that a few times. But still if you pay attention you can see it.
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His jacket also doesn't seem to be in best shape. It has wrinkles and is unkempt, like he'd had to slump under some protection while holding his head with his hands for an hour or something. His voice was also at times shaky.
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Israelis are not used to deal with adversaries like Iran. They are feeling the difference right now, that exist between helpless people getting bombed by them, and people who can vaporize them with nukes and are geographically 80 times larger than them and have 10 times more people in their country, and can build what they need withough asking anything from others!
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That's why he seemed so pooped. Reality has hit him.
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Iran used between 200 and 300 missiles in two waves. A few among them were older, but many were the state of the art in today's Iran. Only one year old.  Especially the ones to hit designated buildings in civilian areas. Israel has forbidden newsmen to report pictures and clips of damages done (like last time). What's available on the internet is those recorded by civilians from a far distance who decided to upload them to social media for some reason.
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Let's have one more fun:
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https://streamable.com/fm1zu6
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The order to militia's head of airwar was delivered by the head of militia via some sort of telephone (which is not tampered by Israelis) right under the pictures of Hanieh, Nasrallah, and the Iranian militia head in charge of Hezbollah of Lebanon who died with Nasrallah.
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As I have repeatedly mentioned before, Iran's operations are always multi-faceted. They conducted one operation in response to three murders, and they destroyed a variety of totally different targets inside Israel as well as close to its shores on those gas platforms.
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Hitting some of Mossad and Shabak structures means Iran must have lost a few intelligence officers in Lebanon and Syria. So every type of criminal in Israel got an answer from Iran, certainly including Netanyahu, who just two days back sent a long speech in English to Iranian people telling them their government will go away sooner than they think and that Israelis and Iranians after that can live in peace and prosperity.
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But he missed a point. He delivered the speech after he had massacred 45 thousand absolutely defenseless people in Ghaza. So Iranians on seeing his speech gathered in front of national security council at night and conducted a demonstration telling the authorities that they were responsible for Israeli crimes because they had not responded accordingly, thus giving Israel an impression they could do anything they wanted.
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The counil understood that, and immediately ordered militia and the military to carry out a multi-faceted strike against Israel. So Netanyahu also was treated in this. Iranians do not like criminals. Especially the type of criminals who have a habit of giving advice to them. Ask the Americans for checking on that.
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  A better list of targets hit in Israel has come out. Iranians are saying that only the targets were all either military or terrorists (Mossad and Shabak). So the hit on gas platforms may have been simultaneously conducted by Houthis, not Iranians. Houthis had threatened to do that for some time. Houthis also hit two British ships carrying oil for Israel during same operation, one close to Yemen and one in Indian Ocean.
 No idea so far to what extent militia of Lebanon was active in this operation.
 Hatzerim airbase also was a target. The bombers who killed Nasrallah had flown from this base.
 "At least 30" missiles hit Nevatim airbase and it is at the time being rendered inoperable. So is Hatzerim.
 A large number of Israeli troops got killed and maimed in Netsarim zone in Ghaza. Also the number of dead and wounded in Mossad and Shabak buildings are high, based on the traffic of helicopters that carry the dead and wounded to hospitals. These buildings, each, received multiple hits. If I liken the treatment they got from Iran to what Iran did to Mossad building in Kordestan of Iraq a few years back, I must say the building were probably let by themselves only after they were totally leveled, and the stories underneath the ground level packed with dirt. But there is not more news of the extent of damage, so far.
 The news of the Mossad building in North Iraq got out because some of the kord workers digging the Israeli bodies out later talked and gave the actual number of dead in that event. But the level of traffic of helicopters tonight to and from those sites tells a tale of heavy casualties.
  And generally, if this thing is over and would have a decisive effect on ending the war with Ghazans and Lebanese, so be it. But if this thing enters the eys and ears of Israelies, and gets out unheard and unseen from the other ear and eye, then I want to see more of it, or a real escalation. You can't just sit and let such crimes take their own vile courses. Things must get escalated and escalated and escalated until this type of savagery in that region is stopped.
 I'd rather see a nuclear war, if conventional war is not capable of reaching that end. I'd rather see people who do not learn get wiped out. In matters of crime, you either learn, or you should get wiped out! You know that and I know that. Netanyahu forgot about it two days back when he spoke to Iranians. So you saw what happened as a result.
 So tonight's events is just a funny little show of who Iranians think individuals like Netanyahu and his backers are. Nothing beyond that. These criminals were told, "Why don't you keep your fucking speeches to your fucking criminal selves."
 You Israelis and you American backers of the Israelis both, don't deliver speeches to Iranians. Criminals don't deliver speeches for people.
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A good part of air defense radars are gone or damaged also. Also Ashkelon received 12 precise hits. Not even a picture of the aftermath of any of this, though.
Araghchi (the new foreign minister) warned "third parties" to stay away from this.
Iran will soon become one of the 5 top nuclear powerhouses. The reason is that it is a truly free country. Even Europeans don't have such options. They are "Bitch" countries. They have to ask for permission.
Just felt like reminding you of that! :)
I think I will see that day for sure. It will happen mainly because there are no other course left to take. It is a certainty.
An Aljazeera analyst (Arabs' best source of news) says as limited the operation was, Israelis had not yet seen one like this against them in their entire history. The news piece says that it really got them lose that spirit of happiness that they had acquired after their recent crimes in Lebanon and Ghaza and Iran.
In other words, "They feel fucked!" Hahhahhhahhahh :-))) Netanyahu is even shaking. His jacket looks like shit after doing whatever it was he had to do for half hour or so in those bunkers.
The Aljazeera analyst is just too polite to put it the way I do.
I like how Iran generally fucks the motherfuckers in the world :) Iran has been doing that for ages. Literally. Wasn't it Iranians who fucked European Neanderthals into present cro-magnons? I like the fact that it was Iranians dicks which did it in the course of 40k to 24k years back. I like how cro-magnons feel about that too. An earlier species who's also arrogant deserves that.
Israelis are arrogant too, but for other reasons. Israelis are Modern Humans, but they possess two-dimensional brains. Modern Human's brain power in them has been applied to fewer matters in life to consider paying atttention to, so they increased their reach at the expense of losing the third dimension. The depth. Good for getting Nobels, sure, but sucking bad in understanding a whole lot of stuff that Modern Human discerns.
So to both of you: Learn to not play smart alecks for the Iranians. It will increase your pains. Somehow always it does that. You don't understand the Iranians, so stay the fuck away from the Iranians. The best that you could ever produce, admitted to this fact already 145 years ago! You hunted his book and destroyed any of them you could put your hands on, but truth is held by its own.
And where is Gallant?... Is he dead? Lloyd would certainly miss that Jewish ass. Lloyd would never play that Johnny Mathis again.

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