Sujet : Re: The singularity is at the end of the rainbow
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Groupes : sci.physicsDate : 28. Jan 2025, 02:11:02
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On 1/25/25 16:07, Mild Shock wrote:
How it started:
> We are the last.
> The last generation to be unaugmented.
> The last generation to be intellectually alone.
> The last generation to be limited by our bodies.
>
> We are the first.
> The first generation to be augmented.
> The first generation to be intellectually together.
> The first generation to be limited only by our imaginations.
How its going:
> The current discourse around AI and computation seems
> to be shifting from the singularity (a hypothetical
> moment when AI surpasses human intelligence in all
> areas) to breaking computational and conceptual
> walls—addressing the limits and bottlenecks that
> arise in computational and cognitive systems.
>
> Herbert Simon’s work on bounded rationality
> acknowledges that human decision-making is constrained
> by cognitive limits. In AI, we're now grappling with
> these conceptual walls—AI has its own limits based
> on algorithms, models, and theoretical understanding
> of computation.
>
> Even with novel algorithms, some fundamental barriers
> remain due to the intrinsic hardness of certain problems.
> This could be because of lower bounds on algorithmic
> complexity or because the problem requires exponential
> time to solve, regardless of how you design
> the algorithm.
Yea, the Von Neumann bottleneck is a basic constraint on
sequential algorithms.
As for mind uploading, that would require advanced microscopy.
I am not sure if anyone has ever taught any worm or jellyfish
anything basic, and then done microscopy on the nervous system
of any animal to determine if one organism had been taught and
learned that something specific and another organism had not.
Humans are defective housings for intelligence in an array of
ways. One of them is that animals tend to have a set lifespan
at which they tend to degenerate and die. At that point their
bodies tend to decompose and be eaten by other organisms.
The brains of people on death without any preservation tend
to be eaten by maggots when buried if they are not cremated.
Being eaten by maggots tends to destroy any residual information
that could be left in the interconnections of the neurons that
had built up in the nervous system when the organism was alive.
A little less than half of all people die of some sort of
cancer in the present. It is not obvious to what extent life
extension could be effective. There is some speculation that
some types of crocodiles do not have a maximum lifespan.
Rather they eat until they grow too large for their environment
to support them.