Re: What is "uncertain" in quantum physics?

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Sujet : Re: What is "uncertain" in quantum physics?
De : julio (at) *nospam* diegidio.name (Julio Di Egidio)
Groupes : sci.physics
Date : 19. May 2025, 10:17:03
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On 19/05/2025 11:14, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
On 19/05/2025 11:07, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
On 19/05/2025 03:10, x wrote:
On 5/18/25 10:28, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
Why shouldn't we think of the Uncertainty Principle as just a statement
about the limits of observation, rather than about something objective,
especially as in causing some non-zero vacuum energy?
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Is there some experiment that settles "uncertainty" as something "really
there"?  In particular, I am not sure if the expansion of the Universe
is such evidence, or rather a consequence of the theory.
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Thanks for any insight.
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Interesting.  A statement or question actually
about physics.
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LOL, indeed.
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If something is 'quantized' in quantum mechanics
it is actually there [and] not there.
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Take an electron.  It actually has a specific
rest mass or charge.  It does not have an infinite
number of fine degrees of mass or charge.
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But quantisation has nothing to do with uncertainty.
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Unless you are thinking of quantising space-time...?
 I.e. space-time dimensions: so no, at least not until
further notice, as those remain in a first instance
descriptions of observation, the "frames of reference".
Unless you are thinking of quantising *proper* time (!),
but then again, what would be the evidence, theoretical
or experimental, for such a thing?
-Julio

Date Sujet#  Auteur
18 May18:28 * What is "uncertain" in quantum physics?21Julio Di Egidio
19 May02:10 +* Re: What is "uncertain" in quantum physics?6x
19 May10:07 i`* Re: What is "uncertain" in quantum physics?5Julio Di Egidio
19 May10:14 i +* Re: What is "uncertain" in quantum physics?2Julio Di Egidio
19 May10:17 i i`- Re: What is "uncertain" in quantum physics?1Julio Di Egidio
19 May16:07 i `* Re: What is "uncertain" in quantum physics?2x
19 May16:19 i  `- Re: What is "uncertain" in quantum physics?1x
19 May19:09 +* Re: What is "uncertain" in quantum physics?7David Dalton
20 May04:00 i+- Re: What is "uncertain" in quantum physics?1Julio Di Egidio
20 May21:37 i`* Re: What is "uncertain" in quantum physics?5x
20 May21:45 i +- Re: What is "uncertain" in quantum physics?1x
21 May01:10 i +* Re: What is "uncertain" in quantum physics?2Jim Pennino
21 May04:57 i i`- Re: What is "uncertain" in quantum physics?1x
22 May07:21 i `- Re: What is "uncertain" in quantum physics?1David Dalton
20 May08:41 `* Re: What is "uncertain" in quantum physics?7Bertitaylor
20 May10:45  `* Re: What is "uncertain" in quantum physics?6x
20 May12:22   `* Re: What is "uncertain" in quantum physics?5Bertitaylor
20 May14:55    `* Re: What is "uncertain" in quantum physics?4Julio Di Egidio
21 May00:08     `* Re: What is "uncertain" in quantum physics?3Bertitaylor
21 May04:23      `* Re: What is "uncertain" in quantum physics?2x
21 May23:58       `- Re: What is "uncertain" in quantum physics?1Bertitaylor

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