Sujet : Re: OK, .. Let's See :-)
De : physfitfreak (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Physfitfreak)
Groupes : sci.physicsDate : 15. Jun 2025, 01:23:33
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It isn't quite morning of day 2 in Israel (i.e. right now) and Israelis are waking up to Iran's missiles coming in on them! :-) This is south Tel Aviv a few minutes ago where all the goodies are located:
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https://streamable.com/lkjyu2
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I don't know exactly what went up to Moses by that one. They're very accurate, you know. "Within a radius of one meter" they say. Not that much wider than the thing's diameter itself.
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You better get used to it. Start from now and practice every day. This war is going to go on for .. a very long time, if you ask me; and it ain't with "Hezbollah" controlled villages either.
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It's going to sink in one way or another. Can take a little while. You Israelis remind me of Ukrainians when they began their hostilities with Russia. Oh they were proud and stupid. Jubilant. Triumphant! It had not "sunk in". They had not foreseen a day losing territories to Russia. How could that nonsense happen? Europe and USA were both on their side!
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Hehe :)
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Now look at them after 12 years of it. It has sunk in baby. You Israelis will be in a similar shape and situation. Aren't you two nations both Nazis?
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Already I hear your hospitals are all packed. 2nd day of war hasn't fucking started but the hospitals are packed.. How in the fucking hell are you going to take 12 years of that? Iran isn't Russia, but you're not Ukraine either. How are you going to manage the mess you made?
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Clips of aftermath of Iran's early morning strike in Central and Northern Israel show scenes like Ghaza, except with more people and various agencies trying to help matters, than you see in a typical Ghaza bombing aftermath. But there's no hurry, this is only the 2nd day of it.
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Everybody walks slowly in the clips. They're all tried. They probably spent the short truncated night inside some shelter.
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All tired, all worried, and I'm not joking. If this thing continues like it has, Israelis will within weeks beg Americans to intervene to somehow convince Iran to stop her actions against them.
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Central and many areas in north Israel were hard hit, including the Golan Heights. Many huge explosions have been heard and seen in Haifa.
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The evening before last night, after Israelis realized they cannot properly defend against incoming missiles, they made their expensive THAAD system operational and ready to hit anything that arrives. So what happened? Were all the incoming missiles the newest hypersonic ones that claim immune to THAAD? A lot is happening that I don't know about.
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It even seems various areas were hit harder and easier than yesterday. Even if successful, the more they use their THAAd system the faster they get bankrupt. Remember that the best and newest missile Iran makes is one third the price of just one anti-tank little missile that Americans make. These THAAD system is way too expensive if incoming missiles are the newest and best that Iran has. It is a failure before even it begins. The missiles will drain every dollar Israelis and Americans both have set aside for this war. And yet, THAAD hasn't even been successful against these missiles, if it was actually used early this morning in Israel.
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War in Iran is still intensely going on. Every now and then a huge Israeli (or American) bomb gets to hit its target despite all the air defense works. It is a strange new war.
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But Iran is a huge country and can take a lot of hit without even feeling it. Iranian people are spending their night hours at home in bed, not in shelters. Israel is a totally different story. It is packed with Juicy target, civilians as well as military and industrial and economic and .. completely accessible to Iran's newest missiles, and being hit with wave after wave of such missiles.
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In this war, they haven't even needed the Shahed 136s for distraction. Enough of the missiles themselves are making in there blowing their targets.
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Did Israel fuck up again? I think they did. Being hated and rejected by any nation in the world after November of 2023 was bad enough, but now it seems that's by no means the end of their troubles. Much worse days full of miseries are yet to come.
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Does Tel Aviv experience Tornadoes?..
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https://i.postimg.cc/Z5qNCd02/Tel-Aviv-1.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/PJTx0Pcd/Tel-Aviv-2.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/Fs2tK2rL/Tel-Aviv-3.jpg
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Look at all those cute little gardens. I bet the one with the exotic plants down right there is Uncle Al's :) He can't wait to sue Moses these days.
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What? Uncle Al is asking a question from me now! Hmm? How do I think of these Tel Aviv scenes? I think they're beautiful :) Not quite there where your Ghaza-created ones are, but .. will get there too perhaps! It's just the second day of it.
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Oh!.. Now Araghchi says participating in talks with Nazis on Sunday is "pointless." Gee no wonder these Nazis still see chances for them regarding Iran.
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Suddenly tens of telegram channels and websites have popped up claiming they broadcast official news of the military forces of Iran. All of them are fake. Israelis want to have it cheap. No, it will be expensive.
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The only site in the world, the only outlet, that broadcast's Iran's military news is www.aja.ir. Everything else is fake and has nothing to do with Iran's military, even if it has popped up from somewhere inside Iran.
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People's participation in helping the authorities has resulted yet another discovery of 5th column drone carrying vehicle; this one unfortunately already utilized and all drones flown. Let me show you what they look like. Even vehicles as small as this one are being used:
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https://streamable.com/sfinn4
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I read in an Arab source that parts of access of Iranians to internet has been affected since yesterday by hackers and some messages do not make it to Iranian people directly. If you still have access to usenet and can see this, here I list the numbers, given out yesterday, that Iranians need to use for reporting suspicious vehicles standing or moving anywhere in Iran, especially in rural areas close to sensitive sites:
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۱۱۳ وزارت اطلاعات
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۱۱۴ سازمان اطلاعات سپاه
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۱۱۶ سازمان اطلاعات پلیس
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۱۶۳۶ حفاظت اطلاعات دفاع
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۱۵۳۵ حفاظت اطلاعات سپاه
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۱۱۰ سامانه گذارشات مردمی پلیس
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Copy this and distribute it as widely as you can via channels that are still working. The TV channels might not be as fast and effective as telegram channels as the latter reaches individual Iranians no matter where they are and what they're doing.
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Also let people know they need to avoid using any form of social media other than Telegram, as these other ones are all "two way streets" so to speak. They're being used by enemies to locate important places, people, and coordinates of sensitive buildings and structures.
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Telegram as of last year isn't that safe anymore, but is still a league safer than other forms of social media.
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The key fact that American and Israeli Nazis could not destroy Yemeni top figures was that early on Houthis got rid of all their mobile phones! So learn from this and do likewise. Don't make it so easy and cheap for the enemy to kill you.
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Do not believe Telegram channels even if they speak in Persian. Hundreds of them are there just to fool you, locate you, identify you, and make it easy and cheap to get rid of you if it can help the enemies' cause. About 50 of them are broadcasting from within Israel alone. Some are inside Iran too! Only use the official sources for information. The only source that gives military information out to Iranian public as I said above is www.aja.ir. So pay attention to the address bar on your devices to verify this.
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The above are about all the warnings that I remember were up to yesterday still being broadcast from the authorities. I hope it makes it there where it hasn't reached yet.
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Glad to hear that Iran's old F-4s (with everything in them rebuilt brand new!) are still in the skies in large numbers destroying drones and missiles for over 36 hours now.. Hehe :) All that effort to renew and reuse them are paying off nicely :) You don't have to have the best jet fighters in the world to win a war.
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And that's for sure.
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Iran's parliament today pressed for measures to make this a long term war, reasoning that any short term war will be lost by Americans' participation, and the only type of war that defeats Americans is a long term very expensive war.
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So Iran intends to gear up, already in day 2 of this, for a long term war.
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Skirmishes don't do anything in Iran's favor. An all out war's needed. Israelis' as well as the American Nazis' weak points will surface in an intense prolonged war. Neither of them can afford it. Don't ever forget that Iran's best winning card is the "200 TIMES CHEAPER" card! Iran will afford it. Israel, USA, and other European Nazi nations cannot afford that. They got greedy and lost such chances.
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Use more decoys! Let their huge expensive bombs go to waste. And keep doing it over and over everywhere you can across the country.
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Isreli news agencies have begun using the 2020 Beirut explosion scenes and calling them what they did today in Shiraz!.. Hehe :) The psychological depth of _need_ in these Nazi pussies, today, just two days into this, is interesting to look at.
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See war matters don't benefit from bullshit. Only real stuff affects it. What's being real here? They always want it cheap and easy :-) And what does that say to you? It says the same thing I stressed above. It says the same as that Iran's parliament today expounded. It says, "make it difficult, and expensive!"
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Nazis cannot afford either of the two. Iran can afford it. Iran affords an expensive and long war much better than USA can. This is the reality that determines the outcome.
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Pezeshkiyan today confirmed that Iran shot down the first F-35 in the world, claimed to be "totally undetectable on radar" :) Israelis' favorite hope has now cracked. Their favorite instrument of mass murder.
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Fly them inside Iran you motherfucking Nazis. Send them to junkyards. Same thing baby :)
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They've been kept over Iraq's skies since that moment..
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After hours of freeze in Iran's air defense at the beginning of Israeli attacks, now confirmed by Iranians themselves to have been totally rendered ineffective for a whole three hours (cause of it still in dispute - some say hacking and some say pure confusion), first thing Iran's air defense did was to bring down an F-35.
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Physics works :) Anywhere! Doesn't that put fear into your disgusting Nazi guts?
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_Five_minutes_ into air defense activation, all your F-35s - minus a few of course - fled back into Iraq's skies again. They'd only made it there because of a huge 3-hour gap in functionality of Iran's air defenses. The pilot is in captivity, probably eating Iranian kebab meat via both ends.
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Pakestan's president called Pezeshkiyan offering "unwavering support" for Iran, any time he asks for it. I read that as, "We're ready to fly your nukes back to you if you think you have use for it now."
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I bet this was done in response to Netanyahu's threatening city of Tehran with nukes today.
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Iran has been working on H-bombs since November of 2023. It looks like the work began seriously only then. I wonder how many of them were brought in (from Russia) and how many more has been built since. Iran's cargo planes made exactly 12 trips to and from Armenian Republic. The ones towards that country were full of Iranian war equipment for Russia, and nobody talked whether they fly back to Iran empty or not! And it was right the time that several teams of Iranian nuclear physicists and engineers visited Kurchatov Institute for "training." ..
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So make your own guesses.
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If you ask me, what Netanyahu said today is in fact the quickest way to get rid of Israeli Nazis. The shortest war, saving the region unimaginable amounts of hardship and efforts that comes in doing it via conventional weapons.
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Do not forget the bioweapons. If nukes are used by Israel, hit them with bioweapons as well. Hit them with stuff that are made only for treating Nazis in bulk. It is the correct response to their mass murdering of people of the region.
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You know, in the previous U.S. admin, the secretary of state told Netanyahu "Do not commit suicide" when the latter brought up the use of nukes in the midst of Iran's first attack on Israel.
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So Americans know something that the cute Israel's "Mossad" still doesn't. The world is sick of you Israelis. Sure, do commit Israel to suicide and get it over with.
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And never go around bringing the matter of nukes up in relation to Tehran, you coward bastard. You're not even inside Israel, flattering yourself with such nonsense talk. Disgusting motherfucker.
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Iran has already taken action in that regard after Netanyahu threatened use of nukes. Today Iran announced she intends to stop all "safeguard inspections" bullshit by the IAEA. The new documents that surfaced 10 days back clearly shows that IAEA in fact cooperated with Israelis to help them with their nukes. So this joke of "diplomacy" in regards to IAEA Nazis is at last over.
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What does that mean? I think it means Iran is going all out using everything she has to develop more and more nukes. Cheaper as well as more effective! Signature of Iranian war products.
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A telling development just now.
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The second day of war isn't even over, and Israelis have begun sweet talking: (announced by Arab sources)
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"Israel's objective in the recent strike was a 'shock and awe' moment, which was supposed to prompt Iran to rapidly and voluntarily agree to give up its entire nuclear program without requiring further widespread Israeli strikes."
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Which received Iran's response: (via same Arab intermediary)
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"Iran will not exchange messages with Israel at this stage, neither directly nor indirectly, and that Israel should not have started a war if they were not prepared to continue it."
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So that's that. The first little step in the "journey of a thousand miles" of the realities sinking in, has been taken by Israelis. Totally new to these Nazis, and nothing new for Iran after collecting 8 hard years of it in the 1980s.
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Another new development (following Netanyahu's nuke threat against city of Tehran).
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The Leader of Iran has just ordered "allowed" the use of missiles "and everything else" on the civilians in Israel, reasoning that:
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"There are no civilians in Israel."
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Let me say the rest of it; i.e., what he didn't elaborate. There're only Nazis there. If they tolerate their Nazis, they're Nazis themselves.
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So the Leader used the same claim that Nazis had made over and over for the Ghazans, against the Nazis themselves.
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16 more 5th column Israeli helpers have been arrested in Iran, red handed. I think with people more and more cooperating with the authorities, these figures will rise soon.
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Iranian navy has been busy stopping American, British, French, and German destroyers from getting near Strait of Hormoz to provide intelligence for Israeli missiles used in attacks. To every one of them that attempted to get close enough, the navy announced, "Change course or be struck". All of them opted to change course and depart.
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The war is ongoing heavily in different regions of Iran, newly in areas where oil industries are located. So Israel might want to extend the list of targets in this war.
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Saddam also went for the oil almost immediately. Didn't work for them! Turned out Iran could kiss it goodbye for a longer time than Saddam could.
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Isn't Israel in the same situation, or even worse, as far as oil is concerned?
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Ok, Israel went for attacking Tehran's refinery. Response: A new wave of missiles were launched, and ten minutes later, which is right now, Haifa's refinery is having a very bright party :) Complete with the clips taking videos of it. Amazing how quickly these videos appear. Iran must have an army of 5th column of her own in there.
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I don't know yet what was hit in one other city. Probably another refinery.
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Clips show these latest wave aren't missiles that are very fast. Enough of these missiles are hitting targets anyway. There's no shortage of the new ones, so Iran seems like is trying to recycle the older ones, again, on top of the Nazis' heads. For targets like refineries even the intercepted ones that are falling down does good damage.
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Yep, more clips show they're much slower than the latest hypersonic ones. Iran is recycling obsolete ones, or their air defense in Haifa is out of ammunition. But these slow ones in southern and central parts of Israel are giving Ghazans more time to shout in joy seeing them raining on the Israelis. There's a couple of such clips as well :) It is truly god-given help to them.
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The last wave were launched from Esfahan, so at least enough of launchers are still functional despite Israelis claim of having hit and destroyed every launching site that Iran has in and around that city.
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It is just announced that 200 missiles were launched in the first wave. No telling how many of them were the newest ones.
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Let me show you the difference between slower ones and the newest ones. This clip was posted by Arab citizens of Israel just half hour ago. In it you can see several slow ones from last wave coming down on Haifa, and one newest one that was launched sometime after the last wave launched. Judge for yourselves :)
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https://streamable.com/3rf7n5
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Absolutely no defense against them. Militia's claim seems to be valid that nothing can stop them. Combine that with "within 1 meter radius of target" and you can realize what they can do to your spoiled ass! :-)
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Official Arab news (mostly reliable cause they're based directly on Arabs witnessing the war first hand inside Israel) say that tonight's missile attack of Iran on Israel has been the most successful one.
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I don't know what has changed since yesterday. Perhaps Israelis are now lacking sleep, or lacking ammunition, or simply lacking promises of tens and tens of billion more dollars for them in the coming days and weeks.
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Something has made them less functional. Let me think..
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Is it already "sinking in"?.. I say this because a fact that billions of more dollars won't change things for them for the better anymore is mighty scary to grasp for the first time! Yes, that can do it. I think the futility of it has started to sink in.
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But unlike Ghazans and Israelis, or Hezbollah and Israelis, or Lebanon and Israelis, this time around Israel doesn't hold its place between the two parties involved. In fact, if you ask me, it doesn't even matter how Israelis feel or think now. It matters, much more, what Iranians feel, or think, about this!
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I'm an Iranian. And I "feel" _and_ "think" that it is high time Israelis learn a hard lesson from Iran: They're going to have to serve the region in some way or get lost. Nothing else should be allowed to work for them. That's what I think.
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Iran cooperated with Hitler because Hitler served an important purpose for Iran. He reduced Stalin's power far enough to remove the threat of his getting access to Persian Gulf after defeating Iran.
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What imaginable purpose does an idiotic entity as "Israel" serve in that region? They're trouble from begin to end and will only get worse if nothing is done about it.
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It is high time now! Fuck'em up. Do what you did with Saddam.
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Ok, more information disclosed by Arabs.
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The reason they believe tonight's attack was the most successful this far, is that the ammonium stored in Haifa for building explosives (also for use in agriculture) got all destroyed tonight. It was not just the refinery that got hit. No prospect of storing them back again either.
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Israel will have to purchase the explosives from elsewhere and I have to see that happen after this war began to believe that. I don't think any American facility would risk delivering such explosives to Israel for some time to come.
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This war has already gone past the point that war between Ukraine and Russia has stalled at. Israelis have already hit Iran's airfields and aircraft and Iran will hit anything that comes inside Israel by air, shipping, or land routes.
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And Israelis are incessantly attacking various targets in Iran. It has not stopped since the beginning of the war, and in fact this is what forms the nature of targets Iran will hit in the future. Any form of target, belonging to any nation or entity inn the world.
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It is a full-blown war.
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For tonight, being Trump's birthday, Iranians sent him this Birthday celebration that took place in Israel couple of hours back:
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https://streamable.com/p1h6b7
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I'd say it is a nice gift. Should make him pretty happy.
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(in all the clips I upload, you need to click on play button to make them start)
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Iran has downed another Israeli fighter jet. Khorramabad area. No news on its model yet.
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Haifa was hit because its refinery produces 80% of gas that Israeli vehicles use. It also produces jet fuel and Diesel oil. There's another refinery in Eshdod that produces various fuels and I do not know if it's been hit yet. Some missiles hit Eshdod yesterday, but no news of targets hits.
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There's more to come for Israel tonight. And they know that. With all the 5th column they have in Iran they always know what's coming and when. But the important thing is, it's coming! So sleep well :-))
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In this clip of the last wave, see how uninterruptedly those slow missiles are raining down on Israeli targets. Where's the air defense? They must be exhausted.
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The missiles, so gracefully go down on them as if they're telling them:
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"Do your prayers first, then sit and wait till I come down and take you to Moses."
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A lot of Nazis need to go where Moses resides.
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Oops, forgot to give the link to that clip:
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https://streamable.com/xr0w4t
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Arab source has published Israeli airbases so far hit:
https://i.postimg.cc/6QqbYvGJ/Air-bases-hit.jpg
Israel won't have them for too long.
All Israeli jets are flown from these airbases. After the bases are gone, Israel will have to take its jets to either Turkey or Azerbaijan Republic, and fly them to Iran from there. I don't know how it will work for them but these bases are a good bit closer to Iran.
If they sit at all, anywhere there, a Shahed 136 or two will visit each one of them because the air defenses around such foreign bases aren't that much in love with the Israeli jets.
So the bases inside Israel are their defense lifelines. They will get destroyed for sure.
If Israel was much larger, nobody could stop them from using nukes. But it's been deliberately kept small in size to keep them tamed. The nuke choice for them is in fact suicide. It won't be suicide for Iran!
Are all the people in Israel feeling miserable right now? Of course not. Haredi Jews are happy and jubilant that Iran attacked Israel. Here is how they celebrate the occasion right in front of Nazis in the shelter while missiles are on their way in:
https://streamable.com/g48mshNot that easy to get some rest in there :-)
New development:
Pakestan just now informed USA that in the occasion of a nuclear attack on Iran, Pakestan will attack Israel with nukes.
Pakestan also informed USA and France that as soon as any country joins with the Israelis to attack Iran, Pakestan's military forces will join Iran to fight against Israel.
So, although it looks like a brand new development, it is really not new. Pakestan is in essence saying that if Israel attacks Iran with nukes, Iran will attack Israel with nukes and Pakestan will take the responsibility for that, cause officially Iran says she does not have any nukes.
But Pakestan has nukes, and when they are talking about using it, they are saying Iran will use nukes in response, with Pakestanis pretending to be the ones who used such nukes.
In fact I have always suspected that Pakestan is one of the countries where Iran keeps her nukes safe and hidden. There are more countries that keep them, but Pakestan is one of them.
The second statement by Pakestan shows that among all other countries that may begin helping Israel in its war against Iran, it is USA and France that are the likeliest, not the British or Germans.
So that part of the statement is new and telling. And it makes good sense too, as France did the same thing with Saddam in that other war. The Mirage jet fighters that Saddam bombed Tehran with were all piloted by the French. France not only actively helped Saddam, but even damaged a U.S. warship in Persian Gulf with Super Étendard air to ground missiles when Americans began interrupting their activities inside Iraq, as rivals.
And the statement also shows that French has offered it to Israelis but has not started it. So it is good news for Iran that this time around, after the experience of 1980-88 war, Pakestan is moving forward to prevent that from happening again.
This is excellent regional thinking on the part of Pakestan. As soon as Trump cut their free billions that they were receiving from USA every year for a long long time, they've found the correct place to move their allegiance to for the best security they can provide for themselves.