Sujet : Re: OK, .. Let's see :-)
De : physfitfreak (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Physfitfreak)
Groupes : sci.physicsDate : 14. Jul 2025, 00:37:38
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On 7/13/25 5:14 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
On 7/13/25 2:10 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
On 7/12/25 6:13 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
On 7/12/25 11:34 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
On 7/12/25 10:47 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
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The spokesperson of Iran's foreign ministry said something about "negotiations" again. A reporter later asked if foreign ministry after all that's happened still trusts Americans. He answered:
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"Our trust in Americans isn't zero. It is below zero."
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Hahhahhahahhhahhh :-)))
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Reporter said, "Then why you guys are still talking about negotiations with them?"
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He answered by something to the effect of: "Our trust with them was below zero before the recent negotiations as well, in fact since August of 1953. This doesn't mean foreign ministry should stop its everyday functions and tasks. We do our job regardless, and what's out of our control is not our responsibilities. Americans themselves, and other parts of Iran's government will decide."
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In other words, the push is coming from Pezeshkiyan's useless ass. Otherwise you would not even hear the word "negotiations".
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A sum up of the effect of Israelis' attack on Iran:
Reporters picked one of the fiercest anti-Iranian government protesters (a quite attractive and intelligent young Tehrani woman by the way) and asked her if there has been any change in her thoughts about Iran's government and Israel and USA. She answered:
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"Before this war, we were risking our asses shouting in streets of Tehran, 'No Ghaza, No Lebanon, My Heart Is Only Iran'. And now with this war, for the first time in my life, I understood what the government was telling us all along. They were telling us, 'If we do not fight them in Syria, we will fight them in Tehran', and now I understand this with my flesh and bones."
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That's how all the oppositions disappeared and the total Iran, solidly placed herself behind the effort to kick Israeli and American ass. Much much more is in store for both Israel and USA. They haven't smelled this new coffee yet.
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It took 20 years for Americans to smell the coffee of August of 1953. It took losing their embassy in Iran to get it. Losing all their unbelievably profitable businesses in Iran. This time around, since there are precedence, they may understand what's happened a bit sooner. But if you ask me, they most probably do not understand this one even after 20 years.
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The reason for that is that Americans and Israelis today are stupid and dumb. They're much, much more of Sheep and Nazis that their grandparents were in 1953. Totally different populations. Totally Sheep in one faction, and totally Nazi in the other. No one else between them but a number of Billionaires tiny in comparison. A huge gigantic concentration camp run by Nazis and Billionaires. Nobody can really save. Nobody can really own anything. Nobody can get a decent education. Nobody can get a decent health insurance. Nobody sees a decent government even in far, far horizons.
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The two countries both are fucked by Nazis and Billionaires.
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Would this people smell the coffee that took their grandparents 20 years to find out, in just 20 years? I don't think so. I think by the time it takes for them to notice it, they've lived their subjugated lives and gotten old and died. So I think they'll never understand what's in store for their wonderful "America" or "Israel."
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Fucked up people will only get more fucked up. Brace for it motherfuckers! :) Iranians are getting better, more experienced, more effective, even more intelligent with time. You motherfucking satanic little entities are getting dumber and dumber. And then you die and go away, leaving behind even dumber people.
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Fuck you. I mean this from the heart :) No fucking chance you Nazis and the Sheep to be on my favorite side.
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All you can ever be, is to live and die as groupies of my dick. And you know it.
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Russia took yet one more step towards being another USA for Iran. They're on Israelis side of course. Putin is now suggesting Iran stop her enrichment.
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Let's see what it means. It means, Putin is actually telling Iran not to rely on him for cooperation, knowing full well that enrichment is the very probe to check such intentions behind what's said.
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And this, in turn, means he's being pressed very hard by USA and Israel and wants to disengage and disentangle himself from this. I don't blame that much cause USA can exact thousands of Russians' lives in the war with Ukraine, and Putin has to protect his own people first.
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OK, so Putin is out of the picture. One more time leaving things Iran-related to Israel and USA to decide. Has happened before, numerous times, has happened one more time right now.
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You know what, I think he's even ready to let go of the Silk Road transit plan that's connecting Persian Gulf with Russia higher up, when USA's pressure on Russia in the war with Ukraine increases. That's how much Ukraine's war is direct business of Iran and Iranians!
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So instead of facing Trump's threat in Ukraine and fighting them, he wants to throw Iran under Trump's buss, so himself could stay safe. Doubtless he's been "negotiating" this with Trump.
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I think Iran should start considering Russia as unreliable as USA. Their Putin now sings Americans and Israelis songs for Iran. I think North Korea is also useless because of Russians influence on them. The only possible sources of help is Afghanestan and Pakestan, and no one else in the world. These two countries might help because they know their time is soon to come also, and they may as well start from right now to engage with enemies.
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Russia's suggestion was not formally given to Iranian authorities, but was something that first Lavrov mumbled in some meeting and then a rumor spread that Putin had mentioned it also. So when reporters inquired foreign ministry's spokesperson about it he said they have not received such communication from Russia.
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Well, even I noticed Lavrov's remark some days back. But when I read Putin had also mentioned it I became sure what they mean.
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So it doesn't matter if they have officially said it or not. Doesn't even matter if they ever said it. Their asses are pro-Israel, and that's it. I'd rely on them as much as I'd rely on Israelis.
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Corrected (perhaps final count) number of Israeli drones shot down in Iran is 120. They consist of Orbiter-5, Hermes-900, and Herons. This count is separate from quadcopters and hand made suicide drones which are in thousands.
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Larijani, the "belly button" guy, today said Trump is these days ferociously playing his little "abacus" :-) Hahhahahhhahahahahhh :-) I love this guy. He knows how to put it into him.
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Larijani must know something that I haven't read about yet. Trump and Israel might be looking into the cost of another attack. Trump's mentioning of "negotiations" again, by itself, could mean it's the bullshit before the act of another war.
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I hope so. The more wars for USA and Israel, the more Nazis will pay. That's fair enough. You may say what about this and what about that. No, those other things are beside the point. Nature will take care of them in a jiffy. But Nazis should pay, and we can't have it any other way.
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Fortunately Iranians are fully aware that this 12 day war was 100% the work of American Nazis. Israel and Israelis are just the little Nazis in it and will pay horribly for what they did in any outcome. It is the big Nazis that should pay something back.
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A major major major Nazi news outlet went down in Dallas. Sold and gone. The Dallas Morning News, from the first time I took a glimpse at it in Summer of 1978, to every single time that I took another look in 47 years that followed, was so Nazi in content that would make me throw it away two or three minutes into reading anything inside it.
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Even its editions from second part of 1800s were Nazi in nature. I went over it in the blog that I described the Reunion people (who in fact launched Dallas itself) and how they were regarded by this newspaper from extremely disgusting conservative points, requiring the editors to often lie about their subjects and especially hide certain facts about them which supported them if known.
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I have no idea how it happened that the Nazis could not keep the paper up now. The money is there and the Nazism is fully there. It could be that USA itself has become enough Nazi in nature that an extra effort on top of it has become meaningless from now on. This could be the reason.
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They don't have to pay for it anymore. It's already there.
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So they just sold the damn thing and forgot about it, after a century and half of expounding Nazism.
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Fucking idiots are losing their visibility only because the surrounding people to them are now mostly Nazis too.
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Russia now is saying they never offered Iran to accept zero enrichment.. I REMEMBER Lavrov saying it! Suggesting it at least. And he had added the 3.5% enrichment can be done by Russia and given to Iran so Iran does not need to enrich it herself. I even cursed that old Bitch of USA in my mind. Could be that I said it loud too and my cats heard them! .. :-(
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It was just a week or 10 days back.
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Araghchi, meanwhile, is giving the Nazis bullshit in return to their bullshit. They're now all talking bullshit :) Because nothing is there to talk about. Absolutely nothing.
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Again, authorities in Iran are telling people of certain areas not to mind if they hear very loud explosion bewtween such and such hours :) "We are doing military exercises." Hehe :) .. I bet you are.
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Whatever happened to the female pilot that was captured in Iran? I haven't heard anything about her. Could be that they took her to Evin prison to interrogate and that's why Israelis bombed that prison.
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Seventy something people got killed in that bombing. Some of them neighbors to the prison building.
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Turns out Pezeshkiyan suffered minor injury in Israeli bombing of the war meeting of the heads of the country during the 12 day war. Iran is now in a fully legal position to retaliate against Israeli heads of government.
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I think she will!.. They're talking about it high up in the government. They're also zeroing in on the culprit high up in the government who informed Israelis about such meetings. There aren't that many individuals that high up, so it is a relatively easy job to catch him or her.
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The latest poll conducted by Iran's most viewed news outlet indicates that 89% of Iranians want to have nuclear weapons. I don't think the Leader can ignore this.
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This is not a result that says the 11% against nukes are supporters of the Leader, but I think exactly the opposite: only the 11% opposition to this form of government do not accept nukes, because they are pro Israel and Pro USA.
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So the 89% of people is in fact the whole population of Iranians. The Leader cannot stay silent about this.
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I think we will soon find out who high up in Iran's government disclosed time and locations of secret gathering of top figures. And funny thing is that, although the word "coup" made and makes itself into one's mind from the first few hours of that war, nobody in the media is speaking of it.
What is a coup then?
Anyway, I think soon we'll know more about this cause those people cannot escape. None of the past coups, all conducted by USA in Iran after collapse of the previous regime, were successful, and the culprits were found and eliminated. There were at least 5 attempts.
The highest probability, in my mind, is Rowhani himself. But that's just an informed guess.
Very informed! This Rohani figure, from the first days after collapse of the previous regime in Iran, has been trying to backstab Iran. He is the one who, for instance, pressed very hard in the temporary parliament to totally dismantle Iran's military forces. If it wasn't for some of the best Iranians soon preventing that disaster, Iran _would_ lose the war with Iraq.
If Rowhani is not a foreign spy, he is then certainly extremely stupid.
But he is not alone. He has collaborators and these people's names will come up I think pretty soon. Just like the previous attempts.
And I get the feeling that the coup figures are trying to hide behind excuses like, "smartphones in those people's pockets" were responsible for it. Or the use of "Whatsapp". Sure, but such things don't always work, especially several stories underneath the hills. And these secret places are chosen far from the entrances to them, all underground. But cellphones (and stupidities in those men to carry them) could very well have been used to track them as best as the enemy could.
Israelis did bomb a very wide areas on the ground where entrances were. So there is a chance that all they knew was when and where the men had passed through the entrances.
But a human link would work best. Better than any electronic way. Or a combined human and electronic scheme, like some "Rowhani" keep calling every one of them attending the war room from outside.
A lot is being learned now, and a lot is still left to do. It is too soon to know for sure.
One of the major operations against the government of Iran took about 8 years to fully get investigated! .. But Iranians of today are better than those Iranians back then. An earlier enemy operation had taken 2 years to completely get understood.
Russians are insisting that they never suggested to Iran to accept the "zero enrichment" condition.
And listen to this, then they proceed to repeat this, "We have always suggested to Iran that the only way toward the solution is via diplomatic negotiations."
So that's where the "tail of the rooster" is sticking out from underneath Russia's clothing. They know what they're saying is bullshit, and they keep saying it, because they have nothing but bullshit to say about this matter. They're on Israel's side.
In other words, Putin is saying that he cannot do a damn thing about this because interests of Israel in it is at the stake. Someone said a third of Israelis are Russians. This is no joke. Or was it 2/3rd?..
An Indian source has mentioned that USA at this time can only produce 20 THAAD missiles a year, and they used up 4p THAAD missiles to knock off Iranian missiles on their way to targets. So in a matter of 11 days, to be exact, USA had to spend two years worth of THAAD missiles.
Iran, on the other hand, has said that right before Israelis asked to stop the war, she had means left to continue this war "for about 8 years."
So if it doesn't get nuclear, Iran doesn't need Russia or anybody to win the war against Israel and USA (and Europe) both, using only conventional weapons. Time in such a war is strongly on Iran's side.
But I think Iran must brace for a nuclear war and be prepared for it. This same Trump was advocating the use of nuclear weapons on Iraq 20 years back. Iran _will_ be attacked by nukes, if she does not have enough deterrence.
So obstacles on the way to openly build nukes cannot last long in Iran regardless of who they are who oppose it. Leader will oppose it? Leader will lose trust of Iranians and will fade away. Literally all Iranians are saying Iran should openly build them. Good times are over when 1100 Iranians give their lives for such stupidities and selfishness (or even treason). Nobody can install obstacles in their ways.
Leader can go to Karbala, Iraq, and stand under the flag of Abbas and swiftly get killed by an American drone, if he really chooses so. But Iranians don't want to be martyrs; they are the real friends of Abbas, and yes, under the flag of Abbas, trying to stay alive just like Abbas, and continue his war as Abbas himself did. The times have changed. The distinction between where the Leader stands and where Iranians are, is now clear in the open, and therefore bullshit is over. Those loving to get martyred aren't collaborators of Abbas. They are defeatists. Iran cannot have that. Abbas couldn't have that either.