Re: Newton e Hooke

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Sujet : Re: Newton e Hooke
De : dr.j.thornburg (at) *nospam* pink-gmail.com (Jonathan Thornburg [remove color- to reply])
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Date : 12. Feb 2025, 09:02:31
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In article <vne5fv$2i6se$1@dont-email.me>, Luigi Fortunati asked:

It is true that Hooke's law is a special case because it only concerns
elastic bodies, but what body is not elastic?

If you compress an elastic body, and then remove the compression, the
body will rebound (that's part of the definition of the word "elastic"
in physics).  But if if I take a lump of modeling clay and squish it
(e.g., I apply a leftward force to the left side of the lump, and a
rightward force to the right side of the lump), and then remove the
applied forces, the clay won't rebound.  We conclude that mdodeling
clay is not an elastic body.

In general, the property of being elastic or not being elastic depends
on both the body and the size and time dependence of the forces applied.
For example, if I push on a car's bumper with my hand, I'm probably not
strong enough to deform the bumper non-elasticly.  But if I hit the
bumper with a sledge-hammer, I may well permanently deform the bumper,
i.e., deform it non-elasticly.


All bodies are compressible because even the most rigid ones have a
degree of elasticity other than zero.

I think you need to restrict this statement to *macroscopic* bodies:
We can certainly apply forces to an electron, but I don't think it's
meaningful to refer to "compressing an electron".  (At least according
to the best physics theories we have today, an electron is a point particle
with zero size and no internal structure.  If/when we have a theory of
quantum gravity this might change, and it might then become meaningful
to talk about compressing an electron.)

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Date Sujet#  Auteur
26 Jan 25 * Newton e Hooke24Luigi Fortunati
30 Jan 25 +* Re: Newton e Hooke3Luigi Fortunati
5 Feb 25 i`* Re: Newton e Hooke2Luigi Fortunati
10 Feb 25 i `- Re: Newton e Hooke1Luigi Fortunati
12 Feb 25 `* Re: Newton e Hooke20Jonathan Thornburg [remove color- to reply]
14 Feb 25  `* Re: Newton e Hooke19Luigi Fortunati
16 Feb 25   +* Re: Newton e Hooke5Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply]
16 Feb 25   i`* Re: Newton e Hooke4Luigi Fortunati
17 Feb 25   i +* Re: Newton e Hooke2Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply]
17 Feb 25   i i`- Re: Newton e Hooke1Luigi Fortunati
18 Feb 25   i `- Re: Newton e Hooke1Tom Roberts
16 Feb 25   `* Re: Newton e Hooke13Luigi Fortunati
17 Feb 25    `* Re: Newton e Hooke12Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply]
18 Feb 25     `* Re: Newton e Hooke11Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply]
20 Feb 25      `* Re: Newton e Hooke10Luigi Fortunati
22 Feb 25       `* Re: Newton e Hooke9Luigi Fortunati
26 Feb 25        `* inelastic collision (was: Re: Newton e Hooke)8Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply]
28 Feb 25         `* Re: inelastic collision (was: Re: Newton e Hooke)7Luigi Fortunati
1 Mar 25          +* Re: inelastic collision (was: Re: Newton e Hooke)5Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply]
3 Mar 25          i`* Re: inelastic collision (was: Re: Newton e Hooke)4Luigi Fortunati
12 Mar 25          i `* Re: inelastic collision (was: Re: Newton e Hooke)3Luigi Fortunati
16 Mar 25          i  `* Re: inelastic collision (was: Re: Newton e Hooke)2Luigi Fortunati
16 Mar 25          i   `- Re: inelastic collision (was: Re: Newton e Hooke)1Luigi Fortunati
2 Mar 25          `- Re: inelastic collision (was: Re: Newton e Hooke)1Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply]

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