Re: Inertia and third principle

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Sujet : Re: Inertia and third principle
De : mikko.levanto (at) *nospam* iki.fi (Mikko)
Groupes : sci.physics.research
Date : 04. Aug 2024, 09:53:54
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Luigi Fortunati il 30/07/2024 19:05:34 ha scritto:
In my animation https://www.geogebra.org/m/qterew9m ...
If body A passes some momentum to body B, body B must politely return 
to body A the *same* momentum it received, no more and no less.
[[Mod. note -- Newton's laws say that (assuming that there are no
external forces acting) the *total* momentum of the system remains
constant.
 
Sure! The *total* momentum of the system remains (undoubtedly)
constant, this is established by the law of conservation of momentum
which I have never disputed.
 
If we look at the momentum *changes* during the collision, we have  
p_A_after - p_A_before = 3.75 - 15 = -11.25 , while B's momentum change
during the collision is   p_B_after - p_B_before = 2.25 - -9 = +11.25
so the momentum *changes* are indeed precisely opposite. -- jt]]
 
Yes, even the *changes* in momentum during the collision are equal and
opposite, otherwise the law of conservation of momentum which I have
never disputed would not be correct.
 
My objection concerns something else, it concerns the equality between
action and reaction (the third principle).

The law of conservation of momentum is equivalent to lawes of inertia
and reaction together. If conseervation of momentum is violated without
interaction the law of inertia is violated. If conservation of momentum
is violated in an interaction the law of reaction is violated.

--
Mikko

Date Sujet#  Auteur
22 Jun 24 * Inertia and third principle20Luigi Fortunati
24 Jun 24 `* Re: Inertia and third principle19Luigi Fortunati
29 Jun 24  `* Re: Inertia and third principle18Luigi Fortunati
6 Jul 24   `* Re: Inertia and third principle17Luigi Fortunati
9 Jul 24    `* Re: Inertia and third principle16Luigi Fortunati
15 Jul 24     `* Re: Inertia and third principle15Luigi Fortunati
22 Jul 24      `* Re: Inertia and third principle14Luigi Fortunati
31 Jul 24       `* Re: Inertia and third principle13Luigi Fortunati
3 Aug 24        `* Re: Inertia and third principle12Luigi Fortunati
4 Aug 24         `* Re: Inertia and third principle11Mikko
6 Aug 24          `* Re: Inertia and third principle10Luigi Fortunati
8 Aug 24           `* Re: Inertia and third principle9Luigi Fortunati
8 Aug 24            +- Re: Inertia and third principle1Luigi Fortunati
8 Aug 24            `* Re: Inertia and third principle7Mikko
8 Aug 24             `* Re: Inertia and third principle6Luigi Fortunati
13 Aug 24              `* Re: Inertia and third principle5Luigi Fortunati
13 Aug 24               `* Re: Inertia and third principle4Luigi Fortunati
15 Aug 24                `* Re: Inertia and third principle3Mikko
23 Aug 24                 `* Re: Inertia and third principle2Luigi Fortunati
24 Aug 24                  `- Re: Inertia and third principle1Mikko

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