Re: Newton's Gravity

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Sujet : Re: Newton's Gravity
De : fortunati.luigi (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Luigi Fortunati)
Groupes : sci.physics.research
Date : 05. Jan 2025, 17:27:00
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Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply] il 03/01/2025 23:18:17 ha
scritto:
Let's analyze a somewhat more general system:  Suppose we have a pair
of masses A and B, and consider the effects of adding a mass C at either
position #1 or position #2.
[Luigi's original question had position #1 = position
of A, position #2 = position of B, mass A = 1000, mass
B = 1, and mass C = 1, but I find it useful to consider
the more generic case.]
>
A+B+C1 and A+B+C2 are *physically different* systems (going from one to
the other involves moving the mass C from position #1 to position #2).
So why should we expect any of the following Newtonian gravitational
effects to be the same between these two *physically different* systems:
* Newtonian gravitational potential U at some test point X
* Newtonian gravitational acceleration "little-g" at some test point X
  (= - gradient of U)
* force between A+C1 and B versus force between A and B+C2
>
In fact, it's easy to see that all three of these "effects" differ...  as
we should expect, because (again) we're comparing *physically different*
systems.

It's true, you convinced me because your reasoning is completely
logical and shareable: we expect anything except that two physically
different systems give the same effects.

But then, why do two extraordinarily different systems like the Earth's
mass (6*10^24kg) generate the force of 90kg-weight on my body (mass
90kg) and my body generates the *same* opposing force of -90kg-weight
on the Earth?

Luigi Fortunati

Date Sujet#  Auteur
31 Dec 24 * Newton's Gravity18Luigi Fortunati
1 Jan 25 +- Re: Newton's Gravity1Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply]
1 Jan 25 `* Re: Newton's Gravity16Luigi Fortunati
3 Jan 25  `* Re: Newton's Gravity15Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply]
5 Jan 25   `* Re: Newton's Gravity14Luigi Fortunati
6 Jan 25    `* Re: Newton's Gravity13Jens Schweikhardt
7 Jan 25     +- Re: Newton's Gravity1Luigi Fortunati
8 Jan 25     `* Re: Newton's Gravity11Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply]
8 Jan 25      +* Re: Newton's Gravity9Luigi Fortunati
11 Jan 25      i`* Re: Newton's Gravity8Luigi Fortunati
13 Jan 25      i `* Re: Newton's Gravity7Luigi Fortunati
14 Jan 25      i  +* Re: Newton's Gravity3Thomas Koenig
14 Jan 25      i  i`* Re: Newton's Gravity2Luigi Fortunati
15 Jan 25      i  i `- Re: Newton's Gravity1Luigi Fortunati
16 Jan 25      i  +- Re: Newton's Gravity1Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply]
16 Jan 25      i  `* Re: Newton's Gravity2Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply]
17 Jan 25      i   `- Re: Newton's Gravity1Luigi Fortunati
9 Jan 25      `- Re: Newton's Gravity1Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply]

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