Sujet : Re: Newton's Gravity
De : fortunati.luigi (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Luigi Fortunati)
Groupes : sci.physics.researchDate : 05. Jan 2025, 17:27:00
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Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply] il 03/01/2025 23:18:17 ha
scritto:
Let's analyze a somewhat more general system: Suppose we have a pair
of masses A and B, and consider the effects of adding a mass C at either
position #1 or position #2.
[Luigi's original question had position #1 = position
of A, position #2 = position of B, mass A = 1000, mass
B = 1, and mass C = 1, but I find it useful to consider
the more generic case.]
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A+B+C1 and A+B+C2 are *physically different* systems (going from one to
the other involves moving the mass C from position #1 to position #2).
So why should we expect any of the following Newtonian gravitational
effects to be the same between these two *physically different* systems:
* Newtonian gravitational potential U at some test point X
* Newtonian gravitational acceleration "little-g" at some test point X
(= - gradient of U)
* force between A+C1 and B versus force between A and B+C2
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In fact, it's easy to see that all three of these "effects" differ... as
we should expect, because (again) we're comparing *physically different*
systems.
It's true, you convinced me because your reasoning is completely
logical and shareable: we expect anything except that two physically
different systems give the same effects.
But then, why do two extraordinarily different systems like the Earth's
mass (6*10^24kg) generate the force of 90kg-weight on my body (mass
90kg) and my body generates the *same* opposing force of -90kg-weight
on the Earth?
Luigi Fortunati