Re: Newton e Hooke

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Sujet : Re: Newton e Hooke
De : fortunati.luigi (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Luigi Fortunati)
Groupes : sci.physics.research
Date : 20. Feb 2025, 07:56:17
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Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply] il 18/02/2025 09:23:09 ha scritto:
In article <vos7hr$gpqq$1@dont-email.me>, Luigi Fortunati writes
In my animation https://www.geogebra.org/m/mrjtyuwk there is the force F of the hand that presses against the car and accelerates it according to Newton's second law (F=ma).
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And at point A' *of the hand* does only one force arrive (the blue reaction force of the car) or does the black force F of the hand also arrive?
 
In article <m1g9ofFcmipU1@mid.dfncis.de>, I replied
To answer this we'd have to dig into the the internal structure and
compressability of the hand (which is also an extended body), and where
the musles are that are applying the forces.  The issues involved would
be similar to the ones I just described for forces acting on the car
point A", but I'm not going to go through this in detail.
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I should clarify that part of Luigi's question is readily answered: The
car's reaction force (blue in Luigi's diagram) pushes left on the point
A' of the hand,

I agree with you: the blue reaction force I drew is there and acts on the hand.

and the force of the hand pushing right on the car (black
in Luigi's diagram) does NOT act on (i.e., push on) any part of the hand.
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It's the part of Luigi's question that uses the word "only" that's harder
to answer...

It is not "difficult" to explain that "only", it is impossible.

If "only" the blue force were to act on the hand, the hand should accelerate to the left.

Since the hand does not accelerate to the left, it means that the blue force does not act alone.

Therefore, another force "also" acts on the hand and it is easy to understand which force it is: it is the force of the arm muscles directed to the right, like the black force.

It is due to the action of these two opposing forces (arm and car) that the hand contracts.

It goes without saying that, if the two opposing forces are equal, the hand does not accelerate and if they are different, the hand accelerates.

Ciao.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
26 Jan 25 * Newton e Hooke24Luigi Fortunati
30 Jan 25 +* Re: Newton e Hooke3Luigi Fortunati
5 Feb 25 i`* Re: Newton e Hooke2Luigi Fortunati
10 Feb 25 i `- Re: Newton e Hooke1Luigi Fortunati
12 Feb 25 `* Re: Newton e Hooke20Jonathan Thornburg [remove color- to reply]
14 Feb 25  `* Re: Newton e Hooke19Luigi Fortunati
16 Feb 25   +* Re: Newton e Hooke5Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply]
16 Feb 25   i`* Re: Newton e Hooke4Luigi Fortunati
17 Feb 25   i +* Re: Newton e Hooke2Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply]
17 Feb 25   i i`- Re: Newton e Hooke1Luigi Fortunati
18 Feb 25   i `- Re: Newton e Hooke1Tom Roberts
16 Feb 25   `* Re: Newton e Hooke13Luigi Fortunati
17 Feb 25    `* Re: Newton e Hooke12Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply]
18 Feb 25     `* Re: Newton e Hooke11Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply]
20 Feb 25      `* Re: Newton e Hooke10Luigi Fortunati
22 Feb 25       `* Re: Newton e Hooke9Luigi Fortunati
26 Feb 25        `* inelastic collision (was: Re: Newton e Hooke)8Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply]
28 Feb 25         `* Re: inelastic collision (was: Re: Newton e Hooke)7Luigi Fortunati
1 Mar 25          +* Re: inelastic collision (was: Re: Newton e Hooke)5Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply]
3 Mar 25          i`* Re: inelastic collision (was: Re: Newton e Hooke)4Luigi Fortunati
12 Mar 25          i `* Re: inelastic collision (was: Re: Newton e Hooke)3Luigi Fortunati
16 Mar 25          i  `* Re: inelastic collision (was: Re: Newton e Hooke)2Luigi Fortunati
16 Mar 25          i   `- Re: inelastic collision (was: Re: Newton e Hooke)1Luigi Fortunati
2 Mar 25          `- Re: inelastic collision (was: Re: Newton e Hooke)1Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply]

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