Re: Newton e Hooke

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Sujet : Re: Newton e Hooke
De : fortunati.luigi (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Luigi Fortunati)
Groupes : sci.physics.research
Date : 16. Feb 2025, 11:42:57
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Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply] il 16/02/2025 09:55:36 ha
scritto:
In article <vnttl2$20mb1$1@dont-email.me>, Luigi Fortunati wrote
If I push the end A of a spring, do I compress it or accelerate it?
 
Obviously I compress it and accelerate it at the same time, because I
am not pushing the elastic body of the spring but only its point A.
 
I ask myself: how much of my force is dedicated to compression and how
much to acceleration?
>
In general the spring's center of mass accelerates AND the spring is
compressed.
>
But, it's not correct to say that only part of the applied force is
dedicated to acceleration -- actually, the spring's center-of-mass
acceleration is determined by *all* of the applied force, while at the
same time the spring compresses.

The acceleration of the center of mass cannot be determined by *all*
the applied force because that force does NOT act on the center of
mass!

If you refuse to watch my animation https://www.geogebra.org/m/mrjtyuwk
you cannot notice that the applied force Fa (black) acts on point A"
and, before it can reach C, it must confront the opposing blue force.

The question is simple: does the opposing blue force in my animation
exist or not?

Luigi Fortunati

Date Sujet#  Auteur
26 Jan 25 * Newton e Hooke24Luigi Fortunati
30 Jan 25 +* Re: Newton e Hooke3Luigi Fortunati
5 Feb 25 i`* Re: Newton e Hooke2Luigi Fortunati
10 Feb 25 i `- Re: Newton e Hooke1Luigi Fortunati
12 Feb 25 `* Re: Newton e Hooke20Jonathan Thornburg [remove color- to reply]
14 Feb 25  `* Re: Newton e Hooke19Luigi Fortunati
16 Feb 25   +* Re: Newton e Hooke5Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply]
16 Feb 25   i`* Re: Newton e Hooke4Luigi Fortunati
17 Feb 25   i +* Re: Newton e Hooke2Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply]
17 Feb 25   i i`- Re: Newton e Hooke1Luigi Fortunati
18 Feb 25   i `- Re: Newton e Hooke1Tom Roberts
16 Feb 25   `* Re: Newton e Hooke13Luigi Fortunati
17 Feb 25    `* Re: Newton e Hooke12Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply]
18 Feb 25     `* Re: Newton e Hooke11Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply]
20 Feb 25      `* Re: Newton e Hooke10Luigi Fortunati
22 Feb 25       `* Re: Newton e Hooke9Luigi Fortunati
26 Feb 25        `* inelastic collision (was: Re: Newton e Hooke)8Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply]
28 Feb 25         `* Re: inelastic collision (was: Re: Newton e Hooke)7Luigi Fortunati
1 Mar 25          +* Re: inelastic collision (was: Re: Newton e Hooke)5Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply]
3 Mar 25          i`* Re: inelastic collision (was: Re: Newton e Hooke)4Luigi Fortunati
12 Mar 25          i `* Re: inelastic collision (was: Re: Newton e Hooke)3Luigi Fortunati
16 Mar 25          i  `* Re: inelastic collision (was: Re: Newton e Hooke)2Luigi Fortunati
16 Mar 25          i   `- Re: inelastic collision (was: Re: Newton e Hooke)1Luigi Fortunati
2 Mar 25          `- Re: inelastic collision (was: Re: Newton e Hooke)1Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply]

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