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Date : 28. Feb 2025, 21:37:10
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On 2/27/2025 11:39 PM, Nick wrote:
On Thu, 27 Feb 2025 22:23:04 -0800, Radostina wrote:

 
CONSTITUTIONAL republic with separation of powers and checks and
balances. Конституцията е над всичко. А е потъпкана ьестоко.
 Joy, вие сте президентска република - президентът е начело на
правителство, членовете на което той предлага.
Той предлага, Конгресът потвърждава или отхвърля.
Checks and balances.
Като дойдох в САЩ, не знаех почти нищо за американската история,
аз и сега нямам претенции да знам много, но все пак научих доста, едно че трябва да държив изпит да станеш граьданин, второ беве ми интересно да чета учебниците на децата си. Едно от нещата, което ме шокира е колко са ни лъгали нас за европейските "откриватели", тук на тях се гледа крайно отрицателно. Второто беше, че тези, които са писали конституцията, са били всъщност млади момчета, а като са влезли като "founding fathers" човек си ги представя едва ли не белобради старци.
Конституцишта е писана с много мъдрост и е била изключително прогресивна за времето си. Казвам всичко това, за да подчертая, че идечта им е била точно такава - никоя власт да не може да вземе превес...

Има разделение на властите и ако ще говориш за потъпкване на
конституцията, то не е от вчера. Моето впечатление е, че законодателната
власт се е взела мног насериозно и се бърка прекалено много на
изпълнителната. И това не е от вчера, не е и само при вас.Така, че
балансът, който ми цитираш е силно изместен. И пак да повторя - не от
вчера.
Съгласна съм, че Конституцията отдавна се нарушава. По много показатели,
а истината за законодателната власт е, че е КУПЕНА, ти как си представяш тези хора със заплати от по $200 000 (не ми се проверява тояно но някъде там) след 2-3 години стават милионери.
Обама преди $1 милион, след $70 милиона
Буш преди $20 милиона, след $40 милиона
Клинтън преди $1 милион, внимание! след $240 милиона!
Буш старши преди $4 милиона след $24 милиона
Рузвелт преди $1 милион след $100 милиона
Това е с всеки президент, с изключение на... Доналд Тръмп, той всъюност загуби при първия мандат, но това което искам да кажа е, откъде идват тези пари?! Корпорациите пълнят джобовете им, за да прокарват удобни за тях закони.
Същото е със сенаторите, Нанси Пелоси от 3 на 250 милиона.
Даже Бърни намаза, но той е само 2.5 милиона за 20 години в Сената, приемливо.
Основното - с малки изключения, не работят за хората, а за себе си.

Идея си нямаш какви циркове са, ако сте парламентарна република. За да
добиеш представа виж какво е у нас.
 
Грешиш уьасно в случая но какво да правя като господ ме е надарил да
виждам това, което другите не могат.
 Ай ся, и твоето его май е колкото на Мъск.
 Аз също виждам много неща, ама не мисля, че господ ме е погалил по
главата.
Е, хайде сега, малко чувство за хумор...
Но е болезнено да гледам колко са заблудени хората.
А и обикновено са егоисти. На тях като им е добре, нехаят за другите.
Не се замислят че това се отразява на техните майки, баби, бащи, роднини, деца...
Да съкратиш милиарди от здравната осигуровка за бедни хора, какво ти говори тожа? За мен има една интерпретация. Искат да уморят инвалиди,
хора в старяески домове, бедни деца. Друго обяснение няма.
Вместо това могат да задължат милиардерите да плащат данъци!!
MAGA, кога е била грейт? 50-те, 60-те, когато богатите са плащали 90% данъци. Нали Тръмп иска да я направи грейт пак. Ами хайде де, знаем как.
Но не, вместо това се обричат на смърт точно най-уязвимите.
Аз разбирам много добре, че се злоупотребява. Някои живеят на помощи цял живот и тн. Но не това е начинът. Не беве и това начинът да се уволняват хора. Упс, не трябваше да уволншваме ядрените физици отговарящи за ядрения арсенал, упс, трябва да върнем air traffic controllers, какво говори това - непрофесионално, некомпетентно поведение

 
Ще стане като с пандемията. КЪСНО ще осъзнаят хората какво се случва.
Аз предупредих.
 Е не, не ме обвинявай, че съм бил като другите по време на пандемията. Аз
бях единственият тук, който спореше с аргументи с Ивайло, а не с лозунги.
Спорил съм и на други места.
Гузен негонен бяга.:-) Къде съм казала такова нещо. С паметта все още съм ОК. Ти единствен защити това, което казах тогава. Не знам защо приемаш всияко лично :-)
Говоря за общото отношение. Колко пъти ме блокираха на фейсбук не знам.
Наричаха ме убиец, ненормална... и когато най-накрая се усетиха какво става, беше КЪСНО. Имаше един Аспарух Илиев, Пурко му казвахме. Прилича все едно е бил в Освиенцим, казах му че глупак с едноцифрем H index няма право да се изявява като експерт по телевизията. Сега май станал и експерт по еврото :-).
 
Иначе планът звучи съвсем смислено, ако е вярно написаното във
wikipedia. И в този случай е важно да се намери баланс,
 
И накрая - спомни си какво е казал Платон за демокрацията ;)
 А провери ли какво е казал Платон за демокрацията? Защото е много
поучително и се вписва с твоите предупреждения.
 
Dictatorship naturally arises out of democracy, and the most aggravated form of tyranny and slavery out of the most extreme liberty.
Не че съм съгласна съвсем, но изглеьда човечеството се върти през едни и същи периоди. Все си мисля, че някой ни е програмирал в игра и ни гледа сеира :-)

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