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Date : 03. Mar 2025, 09:09:29
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On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 20:32:53 -0800, Radostina wrote:

On 3/1/2025 9:47 AM, Nick wrote:

On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 12:37:10 -0800, Radostina wrote:

On 2/27/2025 11:39 PM, Nick wrote:

On Thu, 27 Feb 2025 22:23:04 -0800, Radostina wrote:

CONSTITUTIONAL republic with separation of powers and checks and
balances. Конституцията е над всичко. А е потъпкана ьестоко.

Joy, вие сте президентска република - президентът е начело на
правителство, членовете на което той предлага.

Той предлага, Конгресът потвърждава или отхвърля.
Checks and balances.

Но може да уволнява без да пита.

Не е точно така. Може да уволнява тези, които е предложил и то от
executive branch. Има и други ограничения. Но не може да уволнява от
съдебната и законодателната власт.

Joy, Тръмп е начело на изпълнителната власт - естествено, че говоря за
нея.

Като дойдох в САЩ, не знаех почти нищо за американската история,
аз и сега нямам претенции да знам много, но все пак научих доста, едно
че трябва да държив изпит да станеш граьданин, второ беве ми интересно
да чета учебниците на децата си. Едно от нещата, което ме шокира е
колко са ни лъгали нас за европейските "откриватели", тук на тях се
гледа крайно отрицателно. Второто беше, че тези, които са писали
конституцията, са били всъщност млади момчета, а като са влезли като
"founding fathers" човек си ги представя едва ли не белобради старци.
Конституцишта е писана с много мъдрост и е била изключително
прогресивна за времето си. Казвам всичко това, за да подчертая, че
идечта им е била точно такава - никоя власт да не може да вземе
превес...

Може, но това е било преди 250 години. И нали знаеш, че злите езици
говорят, че САЩ са масонски проект ;)'

Аз мислех, че говорим сериозни неща, а не конспирции.

Конституцията може да е писана преди 1000 години, тя е висшият закон,
който трябва да се спазва. Друг въпрос е,че всички я нарушават.

Аз говоря съвсем сериозно. И се опитвам да ти кажа, че времената се
променят.

Има разделение на властите и ако ще говориш за потъпкване на
конституцията, то не е от вчера. Моето впечатление е, че
законодателната власт се е взела мног насериозно и се бърка прекалено
много на изпълнителната. И това не е от вчера, не е и само при
вас.Така, че балансът, който ми цитираш е силно изместен. И пак да
повторя - не от вчера.

Съгласна съм, че Конституцията отдавна се нарушава. По много
показатели, а истината за законодателната власт е, че е КУПЕНА, ти как
си представяш тези хора със заплати от по $200 000 (не ми се проверява
тояно но някъде там) след 2-3 години стават милионери.

Обама преди $1 милион, след $70 милиона Буш преди $20 милиона, след
$40 милиона Клинтън преди $1 милион, внимание! след $240 милиона!
Буш старши преди $4 милиона след $24 милиона Рузвелт преди $1 милион
след $100 милиона

Е, има достатъчно начини да си осребрят мандата след като свърши.

Не си разбрал. С толкова влизат в Белия дом а с другата излизат,
непосредствено като им свърши мандата, не 5 години по-късно т.е. тези
пари са спечелени по времето когато са служили.

Ти не си ме разбрала - аз казвам, че има други начини да си осребрят
президентствоео след изтичането на мандата им, а не че не са го направили
по време на мандата.

Това е с всеки президент, с изключение на... Доналд Тръмп, той
всъюност загуби при първия мандат, но това което искам да кажа е,
откъде идват тези пари?! Корпорациите пълнят джобовете им, за да
прокарват удобни за тях закони.

Joy, нали законите се гласуват в двете камари? Не е достатъчно
президентът да предложи някой закон.

Там е работата, това не е работа не президента.
Той няма право да предлага или интепретира закони.

Я пак - искаш да кажеш, че президентът няма право на законодателна
инициатива?!

Няма и право да казва как да се харчат или разпределят federal money.

Точно тези пари са в неговата компетенция - кпой мислиш, че прави бюджета
на държавата? Не може да казва на отделните щати как да харчат техните
пари.

Президентът ншма правата, които си присвоява.

Executive orders не са закон но са начин да се заобиколи конгреса.

Не, на български им викат указ и обикновено имат силата на закон.

Казвам ти, Тръмп и Мъск им пречи конституцията и искат да премахнат
влиянието на Конгреса. Не ми казвайте после че не съм предупредила, ако
суспендират конституцията и разпуснат конгреса.

Виж, за това не мога да кажа нищо, далеч съм от вас. Но ще гледам да
запомня предупреждението :)

Тази вечер на Оскарите Броди имаше странна реч, оставиха го да говори
дълго, доста дълго и макар да говореше с недомлъвки, стана ясно за какво
говори.

А, тези церемонии отдавна не ги гледам, даже нямам спомен някога да съм ги
гледал ;)

Ако може да разкажеш накратко какво се е опитал иносказателно да каже, ще
ти бъда благодарен.

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