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Date : 12. Mar 2025, 19:25:16
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On 3/11/2025 11:02 PM, Nick wrote:
On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 11:39:41 -0700, Radostina wrote:
 
On 3/10/2025 12:22 PM, Nick wrote:

 
Ама ти сериозно ли?!
Не се казва, заповядва се, това е executive order!
Откога научни истини трябва да са укази и декрети?!
 Откогато политици и филосифи се разпищолиха и дефинираха пола като
социална конструкция, а не научна. Да бяха нирно седяли, не биха указ
видяли. Това е.
Гледай сега, на английски има две думи
sex е биологичният пол
gender е социалният
не казвам че съм съгласна с това разделение.
Само казвам че биологичният пол не е променян
там винаги са били два, джендър е където се развихриха всякакви глупости.

 
Ами дай сега да издадем и укази, че Земята се върти.
 Ами ако се появят политици и учени, които започнат да налагат с
политически средства, че земята е диск, който стои на гърба на една голяма
костенурка, която стои неподвижно в пространството, такъв указ ще има. И
трябва да има.
 
Или че снежинките имат шестоъгълна симетрия?
 Сигурна ли си, че имат само такава симетрия?
Ник, елементарна физика, кристалната решетка е хексагонална :-) (знам че провокираш)
но от друга страна знаеш ли, че няма две снежинки, които си приличат,
зависи как кристализират. Много е интересно, поне за мен.

 
Има учени, които считат че да се разглеждат само два пола, е доста
симплистично. Искам да кажа, че това трябва да се остави на науката.
Грешка на учените, че не натиснаха преди когато трябваше.
 Как виждаш Ивайло да натиска в такава посока? Повечето учени са
конформисти.
Повечето, не всички.
Глобално затопляне, а всички милиардери с имения на брега.

Ами точно това правим с постулирането на два пола.
Те трябва да избират един от двата, при положение че са и двата.
Този указ е глупав и недомислен както и 90% от всичко, което Тръмп
прави.
 Няма как да изберат един от двата, след като са и от двата. Това е
чистапроба дискриминация на база пол.
Анджак :-) Ама трябва, като може да избереш (онлайн примерно) само единия.

 
Противоестествено е за теб и мен. Аз не знам как те се чувстват.
И болните от рак имат нужда от процедури и лекарства.
И шизофрениците. И много други. Много болести имат хормонално лечение.
 
Защо това да е различно.
 Ами защото много често, да не казвам винаги, болестта идва неканена. Това
със смяната на пола не е неканено. Необмислено - може би,но не и неканено.
Отново, Ник, аз не знам какво е.
Аз от малка обичам компанията на момчета и мъже, много пъти съм го казвала, просто жените са ми скучни, повечето поне. Но си харесвам пола и не искам да съм мъж :-))))
но може би те се чувстват като в затвор с тялото си, не знам.
Тук не заставам на ничия страна, опитвам се да разбера.

Ако ще правиш аналогии, прави ги с наркоманите. И там мненията не са
еднозначни, но при тях има някакъв шанс да се върнат към първоначалното си
състояние. При смяната на пола - няма и за това там трябваше да се пипа
много внимателно. А някои хора вместо това го подкараха през просото.
Бях чувала, че някои хора са си върнали обратно първоначалния пол,
но не съм сигурна
Ето какво намерих
a person who has undergone male-to-female (MTF) gender-affirming surgery can reconsider and have surgery to transition back
но абсолютно не съм сигурна

Не, същата е.
За милиардерите няма спирачки. Те искат ВСИЧКО.
При първия си мандат Тръмп даде tax breaks на милиардерите. Те изтичат
тази година. Тръмп трябва да намери парите да ги продължи.
Откъде?! Ами със съкращаване на социалните програми, защото бедните нищо
не могат да направят.
 Не, друга е - вече говориш за социална справедливост, а не за смяна на
пола.
Да, за социална справедливост говоря

 
Консерватори/републиканци са тези всъщност с най-прогресивните и
социални политики.
 
Линкълн, Рузвелт, Айзенхауер...
 Тези не бяха ли демократи? Поне първите двама?
Nope.
По времето на Линкълн все още няма републиканска партия но неговата е консервативна и наследник е републиканската.
Говоря за Теодор Рузвелт, не Франклин. Този, който установи националните паркове.

 Но има такъв парадокс де - аз, който според Чорби и Ивайло съм завършен
комунист (комунде го няма като понятие) намирам много по-близки допирни
точки с консервативното мислене на републиканците, отколкото с това на
демократите.
Същото е с мен, макар и мен Чорби да ме слага в тази категория;
Но не по всички точки. В крайна сметка политическата принадлежност няма значение. Тръмп беве демократ, стана републиканец, Елизабет Уорън беве републиканка, стана демокрсат, Тулси - от демократ републиканец, Хилари Клънтън от републиканка демократ. Което им отърва.

Казах ти, АЗ мога да предложа проектозакон, законопроект, както и да е
на български. ВСЕКИ МОЖЕ.
Да ВНЕСЕ проектозакона за гласуване има право САМО член на конгреса.
Като получат проектозакон, може да отиде директно в кошчето.
Или да го преработят изцяло преди да решат да го внесат.
Ник, не е сложно.
Президентът няма право еднолично да издава закони.
 Joy, хващаш се за думите - не съм казал, че президентът издава законите.
Той ги предлага, конгресът ги гласува или не.
Това е друго.
Но Тръмп се опитва да прави точно така.
Той мисли че указите могат да заменят закони.

Значи си буквоедка, хващаш се за думите.
 
Не, за фактите.
 Не, за думите :)
Нека е на теоето.
Фактът остава - много от действията на Тръмп са незаконни.

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