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De : ddantgwyn (at) *nospam* mail.ru (Nick)
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Date : 02. Apr 2025, 19:56:33
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On Wed, 2 Apr 2025 11:02:38 -0700, Radostina wrote:

On 4/1/2025 10:16 PM, Nick wrote:

On Tue, 1 Apr 2025 18:53:19 -0700, Radostina wrote:

За здравната система ще си замълча тактично, гледайки в тавана.
Откакто пациентите станаха клиенти, нещата не са добре, но пък
погледнато с други страни, има с какво да се похвалим, поне малко.

Не я разбирам. Не знам какво са пътеки, каси и тн.
Само знам че поне от 2000 насам нещата в много отношения стават все
по-зле.

НЗОК (Национална здравно-осигурителна каса) е нещото, което трябва да
плаща всичко, свързано със здравето.

Пътеките са протоколи, които описват как се лекува някаква болест и
колко струва лечението. За да минеш по такава пътека, ти трябва
направление от личния лекар. Ти не плащаш нищо, освен някаква минимална
потребителска такса от 3 лева на личния лекар.

Различните пътеки струват различно - някои са безумно евтини, други
безумно скъпи.

И ако не можеш да платиш, какво става?

Нали написах - ти не плащаш. Здравните осигуровки, които ти удържат всеки
месец са друго нещо.

Аз от Джина чух някои неща, когато тя лежа в болницата.
Явно много се спекулира с тези пътеки.

Ами ако погледнеш колко стентове се слагат годишно :)

Тук много зависи каква застраховка имаш и какъв доход.

С някои плащаш $10 на посещение, с други $60, отделно процедурите.
Но тук има някои начини, ако си с много нисък доход, се квалифицираш за
Medicaid, и с нея почти всичко е безплатно, но е мизерно и могат да ти
откажат лечение. Аз съм на нея в момента и се ужасих като отидох на
зъболекар, никой в офиса не беше американец, от Мексико, Афганистан,
Иран... Столовете в една голяма зала, без прегради, извадиха ми зъб без
упойка...

А Тръмп съкрати тази програма с почти трилион.

И тук има платен прием, ако държиш да отидеш при някой конкретен и
известен доктор.

В Ачибадем за кардиолог - 200 лева.

Всяка болница май е сама за себе си - тя определя цените за платения
прием.

Но както казах - вече не сме пациенти, а клиенти.

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«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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28 Mar 25 * Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …54Nick
28 Mar 25 `* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …53Radostina
28 Mar 25  +* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …34Nick
29 Mar 25  i`* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …33Radostina
30 Mar 25  i +* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …27Nick
30 Mar 25  i i`* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …26Radostina
30 Mar 25  i i `* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …25Nick
31 Mar 25  i i  `* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …24Radostina
1 Apr 25  i i   +- Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …1Chorbalan Chorbalanov Chorbalanski
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2 Apr 25  i i    `* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …21Radostina
2 Apr 25  i i     +* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …6Chorbalan Chorbalanov Chorbalanski
2 Apr 25  i i     i`* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …5Radostina
2 Apr 25  i i     i `* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …4Nick
2 Apr 25  i i     i  `* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …3Radostina
2 Apr 25  i i     i   `* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …2Nick
2 Apr 25  i i     i    `- Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …1Radostina
2 Apr 25  i i     `* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …14Nick
2 Apr 25  i i      `* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …13Radostina
2 Apr 25  i i       +* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …4Nick
2 Apr 25  i i       i`* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …3Radostina
3 Apr 25  i i       i `* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …2Nick
3 Apr 25  i i       i  `- Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …1Radostina
2 Apr 25  i i       `* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …8Chorbalan Chorbalanov Chorbalanski
3 Apr 25  i i        `* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …7Radostina
3 Apr 25  i i         `* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …6Nick
3 Apr 25  i i          +* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …4Chorbalan Chorbalanov Chorbalanski
3 Apr 25  i i          i`* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …3Nick
3 Apr 25  i i          i `* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …2Chorbalan Chorbalanov Chorbalanski
3 Apr 25  i i          i  `- Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …1Nick
3 Apr 25  i i          `- Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …1Radostina
30 Mar 25  i `* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …5Chorbalan Chorbalanov Chorbalanski
31 Mar 25  i  `* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …4Radostina
1 Apr 25  i   `* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …3Chorbalan Chorbalanov Chorbalanski
1 Apr 25  i    `* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …2Radostina
2 Apr 25  i     `- Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …1Chorbalan Chorbalanov Chorbalanski
28 Mar 25  `* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …18Chorbalan Chorbalanov Chorbalanski
30 Mar 25   `* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …17Radostina
30 Mar 25    +* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …8Nick
31 Mar 25    i`* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …7Radostina
1 Apr 25    i +* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …5Chorbalan Chorbalanov Chorbalanski
1 Apr 25    i i`* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …4Radostina
2 Apr 25    i i `* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …3Chorbalan Chorbalanov Chorbalanski
2 Apr 25    i i  +- Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …1Radostina
2 Apr 25    i i  `- Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …1Nick
1 Apr 25    i `- Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …1Nick
30 Mar 25    `* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …8Nick
31 Mar 25     `* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …7Radostina
1 Apr 25      `* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …6Nick
2 Apr 25       `* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …5Radostina
2 Apr 25        `* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …4Nick
2 Apr 25         `* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …3Radostina
2 Apr 25          `* Re: Not so bad, actually - Why Soviet cities are insanely well designed …2Nick
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