Re: Condalisa Rice - Aussage zum "Rendition?" / Condolisa Rice - Statements on "rendition?"

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Sujet : Re: Condalisa Rice - Aussage zum "Rendition?" / Condolisa Rice - Statements on "rendition?"
De : wildwusel (at) *nospam* gmx.de (Ingeborg Denner)
Groupes : bln.politik soc.culture.german soc.culture.british
Date : 06. Dec 2005, 09:32:12
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"Ronald John Bartle" <bartle.berlin@remove-this-freenet.de> schrieb:

Stimmen diese Angaben?
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Ich persönlich haben nie von solche Maßnahmen durch Länder außer dem USA
mitbekommen, oder das es ein lange Tradition dergleichen gibt.
Waere aus politischen und oekonomischen Umstaenden heraus
eher schwierig. Die meisten Bananenrepubliken haben
ihren Ruf hinreichend ruiniert und keine genuegend guten
Beziehungen zu ihren Nachbarn - ihre Folter in einem
Billiglohnland erledigen zu lassen ist fuer sie weder
moeglich noch effizient.
Ein Beispiel, das mir einfiele, waere die Inquitisition,
die das tatsaechliche Blutvergiessen dem "weltlichen Arm"
ueberliess.
(more below in English)

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ron b.
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-In English:--
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In the Radio one hears that Secretary of State Rice claims that there is a
long tradition of "rendition" (= the arrest by a particular state in one
country and the transport or interrogation in another country.) It is also
claimed that this practice is followed by a number of other states and not
just the USA.
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Are these assertions true?
Usually it's up to the person making a claim to prove it.
Playing coy and making accusations without naming names
is not even gossip, only a general poisoning of the
atmosphere.

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I personally have not heard of such measures being practiced by other
states - or of thier being a long tradition of the same.
Well, I'm sure Ms. Rice knows at least one Banana republic
which you or I probably never heard of which behaves worse,
or has behaved worse some time in known history. The beauty
of aiming for the second-last place is that you can go far
(down) with one single bad example.
I remember reading a German dystopian novel some ten years
back in which renditionsto Turkey were a topic. Maybe Rice
has read the same book.
inge

Date Sujet#  Auteur
5 Dec 05 * Re: Condalisa Rice - Aussage zum "Rendition?" / Condolisa Rice - Statements on "rendition?"10Ronald John Bartle
6 Dec 05 +* Re: Condalisa Rice - Aussage zum "Rendition?" / Condolisa Rice - Statements on "rendition?"8Ingeborg Denner
6 Dec 05 i`* Re: Condalisa Rice - Aussage zum "Rendition?" / Condolisa Rice - Statements on "rendition?"7Nusrat Rizvi, Rowayton Connecticut
7 Dec 05 i `* Re: Condalisa Rice - Aussage zum "Rendition?" / Condolisa Rice - Statements on "rendition?"6Uwe Schwarz
7 Dec 05 i  `* Re: Condalisa Rice - Aussage zum "Rendition?" / Condolisa Rice - Statements on "rendition?"5Nusrat Rizvi, Rowayton Connecticut
7 Dec 05 i   +- Re: Condalisa Rice - Aussage zum "Rendition?" / Condolisa Rice - Statements on "rendition?"1Uwe Schwarz
7 Dec 05 i   `* Re: Condalisa Rice - Aussage zum "Rendition?" / Condolisa Rice - Statements on "rendition?"3K. Fuchs
7 Dec 05 i    `* Re: Condalisa Rice - Aussage zum "Rendition?" / Condolisa Rice - Statements on "rendition?"2Jo Behrendt
7 Dec 05 i     `- Re: Condalisa Rice - Aussage zum "Rendition?" / Condolisa Rice - Statements on "rendition?"1Uwe Schwarz
6 Dec 05 `- Re: Condalisa Rice - Aussage zum "Rendition?" / Condolisa Rice - Statements on "rendition?"1Ingeborg Denner

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