If you listened to my voice, Redemption should be closer.

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Sujet : If you listened to my voice, Redemption should be closer.
De : Josjoha (at) *nospam* market.socialism.nl (Jos Boersema)
Groupes : soc.culture.jewish
Date : 08. Oct 2024, 18:57:39
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title: This year could see the redemption of Mashiach! Listen till the end
link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrPZHlbzb5s
source: Lawrence Hajioff

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If you listened to my voice, the Geulah could be a lot closer. But no, the
hard necked people think they know better, even though their reasons are
completely void to the point that it will probably cause deep shame when
it is all become known how bizarre the Rabbis / Pharisees have behaved,
and what it has caused. First off though: you are idolators. You await
your idol, some kind of super man, some kind of variation on Yoshke the
Bastard, and then you will "reign supreme" you think. This is your belief,
because you do not want to return to the Torah: I am talking about the
most supposed Orthodox of the Rabbis here, who are overthrowing and
trampling on the Torah, including the Shabbath.

How so ? At this point, how dare you not know it yet. How dare people
and especially Rabbis still be ignorant in this time frame of nuclear
bombs and madmen rising to power. Israel is not keeping the Shabbos,
because the Rabbis have told her to break it every evening. You are
faking that it is a new day early in the evening. You re-interpret the
word "day" so that the rich could work their servants on the 7th day. A
day goes from night sleep to night sleep. What is wrong with you people
?! Remember that it is _death penalty_ to not keep Shabbat ? Do you then
realize that _all the Rabbis of Israel_ are under a death penalty from
the Torah, for teaching Israel to break the Shabbos by their (fake)
laws ? This is a death penalty over two sides, or even three or more:
1. Misguiding the people of Israel, to their own ruin. This is a death
penalty when it concerns idolatry, and it might be a death penalty when
it concerns Shabbat in a major way, as well (I don't know, but it could
be argued quite easily). 2. Changing the Torah. This is not allowed. We
will see another example of this bizarre behavior by the Rabbis shortly
below. 3. The breaking of the Shabbat by that person (Rabbi) himself,
and the additional damage it causes by the example function of a Rabbi
(scholar / judge). This is not about Jurisprudence, this is about law. It
is _not_ reasonable jurisprudence to claim that a day ends early in the
evening, and therefore people can work themselves to dead tired in the
evening, which (I heard) they do (hospitality industry in Eretz Yisroel?).

Please hear me out, because all this is very likely going to lead to the
2nd holocaust, 7 times worse than the Nazis, unless you do Teshuvah. Stop
focussing on a person here, stop focussing on your petty emotions
(whoever reads this), or whatever you perceive someone else's emotions
to be. Focus on the law. Focus on what is reasonable, what is true,
and what is fake. Stop acting like fools, your God gave you a brain.

Remember this that it is said: keep 1 or 2 Shabbath, and Redemption is
on. Notice that if you listened to what I wrote, you might be keeping the
Shabbos like you haven't in a long time. But now the next one ... Shammai
& Hillel.

It is said that now the rulings are with Hillel, who I call a traitor
and a liar for fake legislating the cursed and reprehensible device
called a *prozbul* that old lie. How dare anyone with the slightest
of self respect entertain such a lie as the prozbul ?! Look it up, and
weep about the ignorance of Israel and her Rabbis, praise your God for
being wiser than you, and having given you laws which work. You see it
yet ? If you listened, the rulings (interpretation, jurisprudence) will
be taken away from Hillel, and with him the liar Rambam / Maimonides
(guilty over the heter iska) also falls. The rulings may then go to:
Shammai, who stood against Hillel. Very interestingly also, the Quaraim
(Kairites) seem to claim that Shammai may have been one of theirs,
which could mean both that if Israel goes with Shammai that they will
return to the Torah on quite a few points (points which the Karaitis
have been pointing to since many centuries, but the proud Rabbis have
ignored the rebuke, as they still do today). The fake Oral Law will be
overthrown as nothing more than potentially questionable Jurisprudence,
and the Torah of Moshe Rabbeinu will again be elevated to the status it
deserves: the truth, a system that works, a system of Justice & Peace,
not a system of greed and power for rich and lying people, or for corrupt
Judges and scholars to exploit the ignorance of the masses (such as may
have happened in Egypt, and what they wanted to get away from, forever,
having suffered there so much).

Then we have this horrible lie of the Jubilee, which Rambam wrote down
in Shemita 10:8. What's more to say ? I thought that this quote over
there means, where they completely reread the Torah however they see fit
(it says _declare to all inhabitants that it is Jubilee_ and it does not
say: all of Israel needs to be in the land for there to be a Jubilee),
that the Rabbis have overthrown the very function of language itself,
in order to destroy the Torah economy. It is no accident that the Rabbis
have attacked the economy, because that is what the greedy rich and the
criminals will want, and will finance, and the Rabbis end up on the take
from these people who sometimes have great fortunes to burn on such a
corruption project of theirs. You see the Middle American drug cartels
buying over Judges in, say, Colombia ? Money talks. This is also what
likely has and is happening in Israel. The Rabbis are on the take, from
gangster families such as Rothshild and likely many others. Those Rabbis
who want to be honest, just get outperformed by those who are corrupt,
and the base population just doesn't care, which is the worst because
they should have dealt with these issues, and they still should.

It was said also, by Rabbis past themselves, that the last generation
of Rabbis will be the Erev Rav. This is then also coming true, if you
listen, because all the Rabbis basically (except the Karaim) accept the
liar Rambam, and this makes the Erev Rav (anti teachers, enemies of the
Torah). There was already so much written about the Erev Rav, that there
are 5 types of them, and so on, and so there are types of Erev Rav who
do fit the Rabbis quite well. They mess with the law in such a way, that
they fake standing for it, but then they ruined many important parts of
it. It then comes to mean something even bigger: all the Rabbis since some
21+ centuries, they are all "Erev Rav", enemies of the Torah. Since they
started overthrowing the Jubilee (50th year land return), and then making
it worse with Hillel and Rambam, they are enemies of Israel, enemies of
the Torah. If you listen, you see that this also becomes true, within that
lense or view. You know exactly what I mean, because you're really not
as ignorant as you sometimes claim to be when reading the Torah, are you.

By the way, for you specifically I will add: you have reasonably and
perhaps rightly said that if anyone claims to be 'moshiach' and he is not
of the house of David, you ignore that immediately. That's fine with me,
but if you listened to what I propose for you (all), then it will happen
that you bring about a King from the House of David. Some Jew who is
right now on the roll of descendants from King David, the very rolls
you keep for this purpose. I don't know who that will be, that's up to
you, but this is the consequence of the system I am proposing for you
all. Personally I am nothing in that system, I need to be nothing, and
will probably not even go to your place because I'm so outraged at the
lying of the Rabbis and how hard necked you are. I will never become a
Jew with a people like this, who have kept lying for 21+ centuries, and
then another some 15 years they just ignore the most basic and obvious
arguments. What is such a people to me personally ? I want nothing to
do with it myself.

Nevertheless, you are Israel, you are the first born Nation on Earth. You
are the Jews, you have the Torah, even though you damaged it so
much. There is no other Nation like Israel. You should give the example,
because nobody else will. You must lead this mess that is humanity,
towards Justice & Peace and even survival as such, because this mess of
a species is going bad. The next big war will likely become absolutely
horrific, and if you Rabbis don't quit your pride and your hard neck,
the vast majority of Israel could be dead within a decade or two: 7 Nazi
holocausts in one event, try to imagine it.

Why Israel, why are you so dishonest, why are you playing like you are
a fool who doesn't know any better, why are you lying about the Torah,
and why do you think the money you get for your lies is worth it,
especially now in the face of global nuclear war & high technological
Tyranny. What is wrong with you people ?!

Every time you Rabbis get it wrong, remember all the false 'moshiachs'
already ? You did that, and now you do it again, but in reverse so to
say. You realize it is already the year 6.005, because Israel stayed in
Egypt for 430 years, *because the Torah says so* ? You changed that too,
which again is not allowed. There has to come a point where you just stop
with the lies and say to yourselves: we have lied about so many things,
and I just can't stand it anymore. I wish to return to a clean conscience,
I wish to see myself in the mirror and not be ashamed, I want the peace
of an honest mind. When Israel, when will you stop tarrying with the
truth, when will you stop postponing the Redemption. What do you expect
heaven to do with you. Give you another 1000 years ? How will nuke war
and high technological Tyranny look in another 1000 years, think about
that. You don't have any more time. Game Over, now or never. _If you
don't want to listen, you have to feel_ (Dutch saying, wie niet horen
wil, moet voelen). One way or the other, the Redemption has to come,
more or less in this generation or century, probably.

 * End reply.

The Rabbis have damaged the agency of language itself, in order to
pervert and overthrow the Torah. It says one thing, and they just read
another by their own will.

You say, for example, to a hotel clerk: "Please inform guest so and so
in room such and such, that I have arrived and am waiting in the lobby."

Hotel clerk: "Yes, I will do so immediately." Walks to the phone and
tries to ring that room.  Then the clerk says to the guest in the room
above: "When all your family members are there, could you please come
down to the lobby."

After waiting for an hour in the lobby, you walk to the clerk and ask:
"Did you inform him yet, why does he not come down ?". The clerk says:
"His whole family is supposed to be there first, but the rest of his
family is not here, so he went out already and I don't know where he is
now."

Would that be silly ? Who is this clerk to just invent that this guest
their family should be there ? It is not his business to invent that
condition. Who has use for a clerk like that ? This is what the Rabbis
are doing.

Declare the Jubilee to all the inhabitants of the land.

Good true and obvious. The Torah. Good. Excellent.

Shame laden Rabbis throwing a fit, changed it into: All of Israel needs
to be in the land, for there to be the Jubilee. It just isn't the same
thing.

Oh, but they follow the precedent, because the Jubilee was no longer
observed after 2 tribes left, and so they assumed that was correct and
set the precedent. Yeah, I got that already, thank you very much. That's
how they sell it to you, or how they confuse themselves. They pretend to
be humble and elevate someone they choose in a past generation. If the
earlier ones are better, then go back to Moshe Rabbeinu and Jehoshua ben
Nun, etc. Did they observe the Jubilee ? Oh, yes they did. There is your
answer.

But tribes didn't leave at that time, so we don't know what they would
have done if that had happened ?

I think at this point I would just ask this person to leave. If you are
this ignorant and deceptive, why don't you go back to Egypt ? You don't
have to care for the Torah, just don't ruin it for someone else.

The land must stay distributed to all. People must have their right to
land honored. It doesn't matter so much what the system is, so long as
it is good enough. All Nations need to do this, or they will end in
disaster and probably eventually will no longer exist. It is that bad
if you don't, and that important, in my estimation. It is literally and
figuratively the entire underpinning of the economy, if not life in
general. The economy is not a side issue for a society, and in many ways
it is the main issue. Where you can live, what you can eat, what you do,
if you can drink, how you obtain clothes, these are not side issues.
Markets in land are a disaster, and so is it a disaster if people do not
have their land for any other excuse.

Also, as mentioned: what happens if Jews have made a land rent until the
next 50th year ("sale" in Torah speak, but it is really a rent, it is
temporary), but then suddenly some fraudulent Rabbis take over and they
suddenly prevent the Jubilee from being declared. You don't get your
land back, even though you just sold it only until the next 50th year.
The now new "owner" (user, person who rents it), just keeps it. This is
absurd, this is crime.

Of course they cannot admit that, because they are proud and hard
necked. They don't want to admit to be guilty over criminal activity,
such as land theft (overthrow of the Jubilee I mean with that, yes: I am
upset about crimes that seem to have occured some 21+ centuries ago, in
case you are wondering ...), and the overthrow of the right of the poor
to easy non interest loans to be forgiven in the 7th year. The Rabbis
helped steal than money from them, because it became theirs in the 7th
year. To force the pay back with a prozbul, is theft. Stealing land, and
stealing money, this is what the Rabbis have been up to. Why ? I assume
for reason of bribery from those who benefited directly. Doesn't it
always go that way ?

Does that ring a bell somewhere ? It should. Who else took what wasn't
theirs ? Remember ?

Adam & Eve, "stole" the soft fruit from that forbidden tree. What was
the consequence ? Exile.

You all seem to think that they where "thrown out" of a good place, and
while that can also be true, I see it a little different. They became
thieves, and being thieves like the Rabbis, they *ruined* a good place
for themselves and everyone else. The exile is a product of misbehavior.
Hence it makes perfect sense to me that you cannot find this fabled
Paradise anymore on Earth, this Gan Eden or however it is called. In my
view, it may have existed, but the humans ruined it with thieving.

Thieving becomes lying, doesn't it ? Is the thieve going to admit their
thieving ? Thieving becomes violence, doesn't it ? The one being stolen
from is angry, wants their goods back. He tries to force it, which is
righteous violence. The thieve from its end, they also can get violent.
They already crossed the moral line, after all. If they think they can
get away with their theft by doing violence, some of them will. Rings a
bell ? Well, Adam & Eve where also quickly into lying, because hiding
yourself is a form of lying. It is trying to present something as true,
which is not true. You are there, but you try to present it as if you
are not. Thus they where lying, shortly after they where stealing.

I think we later learn about violence as well, in this story. Thieving,
lying, violence ... does that sound like a paradise to you ? Not to me.
While animals can live this way, and maybe they should, humans make
swords and then they make nuclear bombs and whatever is to come. Human
power is not in the claw or in the muscle or in the horn on its head (it
has none). Human power is in its creativity, its co-operation wich each
other, in honesty and truth. A nation filled with truth and righteous
co-operation, a good will from all to all, a care for each other, is
that Nation powerful or weak on Earth ? Humanity is such a mess, that a
Nation like this is quickly a great cultural and economic force. Other
Nations get inspired by it, by how wealthy such people become, and how
pleasant their lives are.

Nations full of rape, plundering gangs, Tyrannical Government, corrupt
Judges, slavery and hate, are they powerful on Earth ? No, they are not
powerful, they weaken themselves a lot. Power is not even important, but
just to make the argument for those who think that it is.

Anyway, the point is: it's all the same thing over and over: stealing.
You have to stop stealing. You need to leave the forbidden fruit alone.
Learn to leave it alone. It does not belong to you. Learn to have that
respect, learn that lesson, learn that skill. Don't be a theive, don't
be a liar, and don't be a violent criminal either. Overthrowing the
Jubilee is already theiving, because that land does not belong to you.
You are associating as a crime gang, to work for people who are stealing
that land. The Torah is law for Israel, and upon this premise, the loan
given to the poor cannot be asked back after the 7th year. To help get
it back anyway, is theft. You are part of a group who wants to steal
mony from people, pretending that to be legal, when it is not. This is
organized crime.

Do not touch the fruit in that one tree that is not yours, leave it
alone. Learn to become a human being, who is capable of refusing to put
everything into its mouth, and just stand there and not act upon his
first impulses or what seems tasty. Once you can do that, so many things
will likely just fall into place.

A great peace may fall upon such a people, a blanket of peace. As you
do, so you deserve to be treated. Now your and yours are safe, your
goods are not stolen, you are not being lied to, you are treated fairly
and honestly. Do you understand all this ? It is simple, isn't it. If
you think, but this is too simple, then you understood it I guess.

How the right to land works, how the economics works, this is a bit more
complicated, but on this basic level: stop stealing the fruit that is
not yours, and you know when it is not yours. If that tree stands in
your neighbors garden and there is no overhang, you know that is not
your tree, not your fruit. Leave it alone. This is like a first level
education on the principle, but once you accept that principle and you
can live it, it is like everything opens like a flower. A whole world
opens like a flower, and even if you don't understand everything in it
at first yet (such as how a system of land can function or why we even
need it), it is like you made your first baby steps and even the longest
journey on foot is basically just more steps of the same. When you get
to it, you will get to it. You will be able to understand and do it.
Once the baby can make one step, a second one follows in due time. Once
the baby makes two steps, two decades later you cannot even stop them if
they want to go on foot through the mountains with a tent in their
backpack, and just having fun doing it.

If however the baby does not want to make the first step, they continue
to crawl of all fours. In a moral sense, if you eat the forbidden fruit,
you crawl on all four, like the monkey you want to be. You are
plundering, lying, doing violence, you act like an ape, or even much
worse since humans with our tools, we can do so much worse. If you make
the first step, do not eat the fruit that is not yours (unless it is
given to you of course, I suppose), everything else just follows in due
time. You set out on the right path, in the right way.

If you do become a theive, steal that land, steal that money, deny and
ruin the law and so on, then you learn different things. You learn evil
things, you learn the arts of being evil, being a criminal, and in that
way you will probably also still learn what good is about, even if for
no other reason that pretending to be good is part of the art of lying.
Thus you stealing that fruit from that tree that isn't yours, that
becomes the path of learning about "good and evil", which is a big
mistake as you see. It is about being a criminal.

You should not want to be a moral ape, but rather become a human. To be
human and civilized, you respect what belongs to someone else, and in
that way you learn about what is good, and then you learn about what is
even better and that is never ending I suppose. That is a real life. You
don't need to learn about pathetic ways to scam people, as the criminals
do, or indeed about how to confuse the masses to pass bad law. You can
learn about how an economy works next, and how you make & operate a
system of free land for all. You can learn how to destroy the criminals.
You can learn to be an ambulance driver, a pilot, a farmer, you can
become a math teacher I suppose, or what about a black smidth, or first
this and then something else ? How many ways to be productive and useful
exist ? It seems there are more ways all the time ? It is endless,
extremely varied, rich and rewarding, and you can learn so much all the
time, and experience so much. If you are good, you can be at peace with
yourself and your people, and become happy and then, even more happy.

Sure, some criminals may do some damage at times, but probably soon, we
have them literally all destroyed, and that idiocy doesn't even exist
anymore (give or take a few ten thousand of years ? I don't know when,
but it is very likely that the side of evil will be entirely
annihilated, because nobody needs their bikes stolen, and nobody needs
their children being abused, or their houses set fire to, etc).

You see ? This whole path of "the knowledge of good and evil", this is
stupid, it is pathetic and it is a mistake. All the happiness in the end
and much of it along the way, is at the side of the good, where really
all knowledge is at, including that about evil as well, just not in the
sense of committing those crimes. Even to an extend, the art of evil
comes back in a righteous war and in certain policing activity. It is
not really worth much of anything, what these criminals are learning
about breaking bones of innocent people, or running scams on the phone
against old people. It is disgusting, shameful and eventually self
destroying.

Leave that path, and return to the good, to honor and life ! Israel
where are you ?! Where are you. Return ... return to your destiny.

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