Re: The Rabbis put the entire Nation of Israel at grave risk.

On 2025-01-16, Jos Boersema <Josjoha@market.socialism.nl> wrote:

On 2025-01-15, Jos Boersema <Josjoha@market.socialism.nl> wrote:

link: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1GU6dJ8diKI
title: Connecting to Hashem | Rabbi Shepherd's purpose towards NON-JEWS
       "I Have Met Many Moshiach Seeking Redemption Through Different Paths
source: @KingDavidKabbalah
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Not a clue what this was about. However, the Rabbis have overthrown
the Torah economy, causing the exile and leading Israel to death. You
don't want to correct yourselves, so there should not be a Redemption
for the Rabbis I guess. You made your choices, consequences befitting
them will have to be the result. I don't know why you are so hard necked
and dishonest, but if that's your choice, then so be it. Nobody can live
your lives for you.
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There was an answer to this from that channel, saying something about
how we should love humanity and bring them closer to the creator ...

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@KingDavidKabbalah  Thank you for your reply. Let me first wish you a
long happy and healthy life.
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I have 4 questions, but I will ask them one by one so that you can think
& respond for as long as you wish, and we can debate the details if
you like in various ways. All 4 questions are about the Torah economy:
land ownership, loans, rest. It is clear to me at least, that Rabbinical
Judaism has overthrown the Torah economy. I am asking you to do Teshuvah
over this, if you haven't already. I also like to ask you to consider
how Moshe Rabbeinu and Abraham where _rebels_ against the existing order
of their day. Abraham destroyed the idols in his father's shop, Moshe
Rabbeinu killed an abusive Egyptian guard. Going along to get along is not
the essence of the Torah. You may have to be the first among your own to
turn toward the truth, and oppose the entire world on your own. Also,
Israel is in exile for a reason. Rabbinical Judaism, in my opinion,
is that reason. I can explain exactly why, if given the time.
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I want to start simple. Do you want to do Teshuvah over the prozbul. If
yes, perhaps you have just started the Redemption.

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Well, they seem to deploy the silence weapon again, although you never
know if they will still do Teshuvah and reply in a good way.

Since Israel is apparently even worse hard necked that I have already
experienced, I am starting to believe that the Redemption cannot work
even with a 1 in 20 selection. At first when I made my proposal, it was
completely obvious to me that anyone who was willing can join, and that
is still the case in a general sense. However we are now talking about
Israel, and also the Torah, and they are supposed to Redeem themselves
*forever*. They are *never* supposed to collapse again. That is a rather
high standard. It starts to feel to me that this is not going to be
possible with this people, even not with the 5% best of them. What do
you think ? The obstinacy just continues, the lying about the Torah just
continues, bold and in-your-face (my face in this case).

I decided to ask them what they think about only 1%, or perhaps the
Redemption will be given to the Karaites ? What do you think ?

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@KingDavidKabbalah  Do you also think it may be better at this point, if
the Redemption is only going to happen for say 1% of the Jewish people,
rather than the perhaps too hopefull idea of 5% ? Rabbis can obviously
not be part of the Redemption. You made your choices to be enemies of
the Torah and enemies of heaven for so long, and you earned so much
prestige and money doing it, you have had your rewards, the rewards that
you wanted. Such people cannot make a peaceful society a reality.

I still however had the hope that 5% could make it, under the idea that
the Nazis killed a third, and then the next holocaust (again caused by
the Rabbis, as usual, because they break the Torah and this activates
the curses section in the Torah) will kill 7 times a third, equals 95%
killed. Since as usual there is no reply to a request to return to the
truth (the Torah economy at least), i am starting to think that it is
so bad with the Jewish people, that there may not even be 5% who want
to be honest and caring enough, to be reliable permanent residents in
a Sovereign Israel as Redeemed and back in a good State. Do you also
think that 1% is better perhaps, or to only allow the Karaites to form
the Redemption, since they may not be guilty over following Hillel and
Rambam or the Sun Disk idol 'Lamp of Helena' ?

The idea of 1% comes from one claim that the Nazis didn't just kill
a third, but half. 7 times a half would mean that the next round of
punishment, 7 times worse, could end up killing 99%.

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Also of course, once the Redemption is a success and it is obvious,
nobody can join anymore, no matter how sincere your Teshsuvah becomes.
You can then only get in maybe in your next life, if heaven gives you
that life. The whole thing is becoming something above human capability
to create. We humans cannot just select 1% of a people, and make sure
these are the best ones. Heaven can do that, and this basically being a
religion acknowledging the Creator and assuming and even expecting its
interference, then within that logic that can still be a reality, or at
least something you can think.

I hope with this, that any Jewish people reading this, might realize how
bad the situation with them is. They should also not think that the
longer the Redemption is postponed, the easier it may be for them to get
in, because apparently the good people to already make it happen are
lacking. It is rather the reverse: because the good people to already
make it happen are lacking, the bar for any other person to get in as
well is getting higher not lower. The lower the overall level of Israel,
the higher the bar becomes for the ones on the worse side to still get
in, because the moral carrying capacity of the group who is making the
Redemption is lower.

If morality is something which floats up, and bad behavior goes down,
and you have 100 persons of varying weight / buoyancy, and you try to
make a group from the most buyoant down to the least, which is still
going to float up as a group, then you can reach lower levels of
moral people to still manage to latch on and float up together, if there
are more boyant people. They will be able to pull up an amount of people
who still have things to learn, or a lot to learn, however you want to
put it. If the top buoyant people are not that good already, then with
30 of them they can perhaps lift up together just one more person who
might otherwise not be able to go up on his own. If you have 80 very
beoyant people, they might be able to have a great society (going up)
even with the remaining 20 persons being a part of it (and if there are
actual criminals among them, they would just deal with that themselves
correctly and take those people out themselves). The lower the level of
the people of Israel in general, the lower the amount and level of the
good in Israel, the fewer of the worse part of the people is likely to
make it to the Redemption, because the people who on balance have a
negative influence cannot be suffered without causing the destruction
of that people sooner or later.

This is how I would look at it, as a task to be completed. This is quite
the opposite of gentile group instincts, who will probably tell them: if
everyone is bad, I can also be bad, and nothing too bad should happen to
me because I don't stand out. They think that if there is a lot of bad,
that their bad will not hurt them as much anymore. This assumes there is
no group of people who wants to do a lot better now, to whom they should
want to belong. This is where the REdemption then would be different, in
that there does come about a group of people who want to do better. It
is then also not the case that if this group is worse, then worse people
can join it because they would be more in line with this group and thus
be similar. While this is the way humans would indeed behave, if this is
Israel and this Redemption needs to be forever, this is not a casual
event in history. It would be a really tense and studied event, not
casual and not by chance (if I understand this culture correctly). The
cut will then have to be made, there where this group can manage
themselves *forever*. This never happened on Earth basically, that a
Nation could be at peace and Justice without going through all kinds of
wars and upheavels, for many thousands of years (as a sort of equavalent
for what we humans already may call, forever, which is much longer still).
If the cut is then to be made, there where it can make the bar
"forever", if the overall group is worse, the cut may have to be made
faster, and fewer worse people can still make it. See my logic ?

The purpose of arguing these things, is that you may get a sense of
necessary urgency. The purpose of that is not to make you become good
only so that things will go faster, but in the end everyone will make it
fine, like some pep talk. The purpose is more like that once you have
failed and will never get in, when you realize you ruined yourself
perhaps forever, that we can than have peace with your failure in the
knowledge that you already knew what was potentially going to happen
with you. Understand ? Do you understand how severe all these things may
end up being, for you personally ? If not, that is on you. If you want
to gamble with your long term or even forever existence, that is on
you. I warn you not to do it, but do the good you can, and leave the
rest up to heaven and have good hopes all will be fine. If you want to
gamble with your existence and do bad things and be an uncaring
obstinate person ... you may find yourself at some point in a very
difficult place, where there is none to help you, and none is coming.

You have been warned. I warn you ahead of time, long before the Nazi
Fascist Trump was elected (elected by Jewish people even, can you
believe it). Long before World War 3 was even on the table in the minds
of the ordinary people (who understand nothing). 2014 was the start of
that war (Russia vs USA, which USA tries to make into a war between East
and West Europe again, becaus that's what they do but they will probably
be a big part of it themselves in the end, and that's probably also what
their top criminals want). Etc etc.

You chose to follow this evil, you have been asked to stop following the
majority into evil. What evil ? Rambam SHemita 10:8, prozbul, heter
iska, and breaking the Shabbos in two. You didn't want to listen. I
spelled out the logic of the natural consequences many times. You didn't
want to listen. I gave you the Torah quotes many times. You didn't want
to listen. Then when you are being destroyed, don't count on anyone
caring to listen to these hardnecked dishonest and disloyal people, who
chose war and injustice for themselves as the way they wanted to live.
Then have your own wishes come true upon yourself, and accept what it
will mean without complaining (it will probably mean death for most of
you, I'm sorry to say).

Are you happy because you are certainly a "good gentile" ? Sorry, not
good enough. As a gentile Nation, I'm very happy we have Jews in our
land, the more the better. If they are nothing more than "good gentiles"
rather than what they should be "good Jews", that is still good for us,
it still helps us, because we have a lot of "not so good gentiles" here
as well, never mind the evil ones.

You may then think, you are doing good. Don't the 'reform' or whatever
talk about 'Tikkun Olam' or something ? Is this what they mean ? Well,
it's wrong. The Torah is the Tikkun Olam, the gentiles need to see you
do the Jubilee, so they can stop destroying themselves with their
selling of land. How oddly specific, how oddly technical ? Yes it is
also about technical things, economics. You better get used to it,
because it is about important aspects of society, and it is not about
your silly Kabbalah blablah mumbojumbo wizzardry make belief stories.
Reality. Get it ? Suffering through poverty, suffering through war.
Reality, the things adults are supposed to deal with, to set it right.
Criminals, child abuse, massacres, hunger, disease, corruption,
thieving, lying by people with power. Things that matter.

Get your head out of your arses and live, be "good Jews", meaning you
are doing your Torah, but even above that of course, to have a heart. I
rather go with someone with a heart who knows zero Torah, than someone
who knows all the Torah there is, but doesn't have the heart, doesn't
have the caring heart. Heart is first, but technical details are also
important (my opinion). If the heart (I mean a loving soul who cares) is
good, then the rest can always be learned relatively easily, like if you
wanted to learn sailing, you can do it, but if you don't want to learn
sailing than all the boats in the world might not be enough to make you
a good sailor. If you really wanted to learn how to sail even though you
live in a desert, you might eventually succeed. The will is important,
the will to be good. IN that sense it is not about the technical
details, but then again the love & care from the heart finds its way
into caring about details of life, such as to afford that loan, such as
to feel for the business who goes bust because of the cost of the
mortgage on the land, and so on. It can also be the will of a soldier to
save someone in trouble, to run through the fire and get them out, but
this love and care then also translates itself into the details. You
want to get them out, therefore you focus on how to run, where to hide,
how to shoot back.

Mumbo jumbo buys me nothing, mumbo jumbo Sefiroth Klipoth ? Doesn't get
me a peaceful city, doesn't get food in the stomach of a hungry child
whose father isn't getting paid enough.

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