Hillel the Elder, Rambam/Maimonides, frauds, serve the rich & greedy.

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Sujet : Hillel the Elder, Rambam/Maimonides, frauds, serve the rich & greedy.
De : Josjoha (at) *nospam* market.socialism.nl (Jos Boersema)
Groupes : soc.culture.jewish
Date : 11. May 2024, 22:24:47
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title:  MASHIACH HATES STUPID PEOPLE!
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source:  The Gates Of Mordehay

   Comment:

Funny how you bring up the topic of _anti-semitism_ (hatred of Jewish
people, typically by ignorant if not evil people), and then start
quoting Rambam, while having posed the question what _Hashem_ wants with
this anti-semitism. You don't see the craziness in this ? I guess not
(sigh). You (all) are breaking the Torah, as you (grrrr) well know, on the
topic of loans. Prosbul (made up by traitor Hillel the Elder), and *Heter
Iska* made up by - you guessed it: Rambam. You asked what the Creator
wants with the anti-semitism ? No need to ask of course, it is written
in the curses section of the Torah. You are punished for following people
like Rambam (take interest on loans from your own people), as opposed to
listen to Hashem (no interest and debt forgiveness). (This is probably
not the whole story, but it is part of it.) You won't listen, as usual,
because this is just another _ignorant if not evil Usenet comment_
(right?), not worthy of a reply let alone to start to do Teshuvah
(what?! right?) ... and so the world spins towards the 2nd holocaust
with the foot off the brakes, yet they wonder why it all happens.

It happens because people don't seem to take anything serious anymore,
Jewish people included now. Admit the prosbul is a lie, admit the heter
iska is a lie, admit you have been following traitors, don sackcloth and
ashes, sit around to do Teshuvah, show your people you are doing Teshuvah
and breaking with the traitors, and (after everything else too of course,
that there is to the Torah of Moshe Rabbeinu) then you can ask HKB'H
for help and maybe can expect something (like hopefully surviving the
probably coming 2nd holocaust, both in USA and Eretz Yisroel I guess,
7 times worse than the Nazis, 95% of all Jewish people will probably die
(sorry)). Isaiah: only a _remnant_ will return. Then - like 'the autists'
said- try to be that remnant ! Separate from those who wish to serve
the rich (Hillel, Rambam).

You see how twisted it all has become ? Rambam, himself a traitor and of
ignorance, lectures the world in his book about what is good and wise. Did
Rambam oppose Hillel the Elder at least, and his cursed prosbul ? Probably
not, and that is already bad enough. You went back to Egypt, this is the
Torah from Egypt (Hillel, Rambam). You're lost, you cannot be Redeemed
this way. The fire of greed created by Hillel/Rambam in the economy
is one thing, but the dishonesty about it is yet another thing. Maybe
the economy, if all was right, could survive this corruption, but what
about the dishonesty of something like a prosbul or heter iska ? The
sheer ... craziness and audacity of it, and who dare to support it. What
does that mean, what else will they do, how deep is their ignorance, or
how bold is their will to break down what Moshe Rabbeinu set up ? Yeah,
you don't have an answer, right ? Seen it all before. Don't come back
later and complain. (I don't argue the details of prosbul/heter iska
right now, because it is too obvious and already did it dozens of times,
and it takes a lot of paragraphs to get into the details.) You should
reply with something like this: I looked it up, prosbul is indeed fraud,
heter iska is also deeply suspect, I did Teshuvah and am working on
my people to do the same. If you do, I hope you will soon live in the
Redemption. If not, you probably can _never_ be Redeemed, and never
will live in the Redemption, because you are destroying it from the
inside out. Cancelling this comment does not cancel the truth it may
contain. Have an awesome day.

 *

Continuing on Usenet ... Will the above comment be the straw wich tips
the scales, and suddenly the Redemption has started ? Very very
unlikely, not after all that has happened, on this topic but also within
the Jewish people themselves over the centuries. Debates have been had,
and already lost, with seemingly no energy to revisit them. Things
therefore seem to more and more shape up along the lines of Isaiah,
saying that only a remnant will return.

Given the way how the Jewish people now react to "October" (this is how
they call the massacre near Gaza, the attack by Hamas), I sometimes get
the impression that they think it cannot get any worse than that,
although the Nazi holocaust was of course incomparably worse. Some of
them, maybe many, seem to think that after this attack by Hamaz, they
will keep winning the war and that is it. Their King will appear, and
that will be the Redemption, and I guess basically everything will
remain the way it is now, except it will be called the Redemption and
they won a small war ?

Imagine the gulf of concept which lies between that belief, where the
Zionist State just goes on as now, perhaps with a minor change in
Government structures and a new belief of unity around their new King or
whatever, and ...

... All the land in Eretz Yisroel, certainly which is under Jewish
control, to be measured and what is good for economic production will be
distributed as a free right to all ...

... The Rabbis being exposed as creating the exile with their Hillel and
Rambam, who broke down the Torah ... Rabbinical Judaism: done for, over.
The "Oral Tradition" exposed as fake. The Torah however, is not fake,
but good.

... Family values completely back to the time of Moshe Rabbeinu, with
possible banishment for people suffering from homoexuality (it is
death under Torah law, by the way).

... Basically everyone who wants a hedonistic life, does not care about
the common welfare at all but is simply and exclusively obsessed about
their bigger car bigger vacation bigger house and bigger icecreams
(etc), just left and never comes back.

... Israel completely out of the United Nations (if that even still
exists) and no longer in alliance with the treachorous Americans (it is
merely a step toward a Tyrannical one world order).

... A lot of care given to the environment.

... Personal luxury toned down dramatically, especially for those who
want excess (the rich and greedy). Poor people on the other hand, lifted
up toward decent living standards, pretty much due to their own hard
work using their land and the available market opportunities. That is
how you solve poverty (in my opinion): give people opportunity in the form
of raw but valuable land, and remove the chokehold of the super rich
criminals over the economy so that very small initiatives can break into
the market and flourish, not for the sake of becoming the next
psycthopathic multinational looting operation, but for the sake of their
children (for crying out loud).

... Just a humble small Nation, of people who want to be good and live.
Live to enjoy the small things in life, and above all: to live, to
experience.

I suppose these two visions of what a good nation is, and what actually
will happen in Eretz Yisroel, could go a little together in theory, but
it is clear that almost nobody even on the side of the religious has
enough care to get serious on their internal corruption (which in the
case of the Rabbis, is about Hillel and Rambam, and probably other
Rabbis who broke down the Torah, then probably getting the support of
the rich to spread that message if it suited them ?).

These Jewish people, who think it is merely a small war and soon a
few stickers will change and that will be Israel forever, they do not
seem to take the Torah seriously, and also not how severe the issue of
war will likely become in the end. The Zionist State has maybe 10 Million
total population now ? Iran recently openly attacked them in a big wave
of artillery / rockets, but Iran is 80 million people, and other Nations
around the zionist State are similarly vastly outnumbering the Zionist
State. All these foreign Nations can already be called Empires in their
own right. Turkey, Iran, Egypt, this is an incredible amount of people
together. It is like two hands, and the Zionists are a fly in between.
How can they win this without the help of the Creator himself ? They
think they earn that help, but their Torah is quite weak, so how is that
supposed to work out. If they did the above points, their Torah would be
much stronger, but they do not want to do that (for now)

Historically, Israel suffered much worse than this Hamas attack,
incomparably worse. The whole moral situation (the amount of their Torah
law keeping) of Israel is probably worse compared to what it was before
the second world war. The ruling class criminals of the world will
always have an interest in destroying the Torah on Earth, because it
contains morality they are afraid off, and destroying the Torah has to
mean to destroy Israel.

Get that: all the ruling classes of sufficient sophistication in the
world, and that can be from the halls of Imperial Chinese power which
goes back many thousands of years (they have seen it all), Russia,
middle east, America, Europe, all the criminals in the top who know that
they are self admitted evil people and want to be evil, they know they
have everything to fear from "the Torah movement" (in the broadest
sense), and therefore they want to destroy that. That means to murder
every single last Jew, because the Torah is in every single real Jew.
It is in their hearts and minds, or at least (as Judaism has it), if
they stood at Har Sinaii and said "we will hear and we will do" and they
meant it - that is, to be good forever, and to be against evil forever
and to the ultimate bitter end of entirely only being good, and entirely
destroying all evil on Earth.

In the end, it is an us or them situation. The good wins, or the bad
wins. Bad will destroy good, and good will destroy bad. If you think
there is a middle way, stop reading and start eating an icecream. Go
play in the sand box. The tyrants are set against the good, and the good
are set against the tyrants, and all to the death, forever. The war
isn't over yet, but when it is, it should be forever.

So ... you have a whole world ruled at the top by criminals (who don't
have all the power, but they have a tremendous power nonetheless), who
have extreme amounts of money (Trillions, so to say), and the most
clever of them know they have to destroy every last Jew on Earth. Such
criminals are probably to be found in all corners of the world, in the
big Empires, where they care about how things develop in the long term.

Even if what I say here is over the top, there are other reasons why
Nations may want to rise against Israel, anything from jealousy to
wanting those natural resources to scoring an historical hit, to
whatever we just need a war to keep our people busy and whatever else.
Being different tends to be a reason to be hated and then attacked, one
way or the other, on any scale. It makes the war propaganda easier.
Jewish people certainly are different in quite a few ways, like
religion, language, history, etc. They used to be quite smart, these
days I don't see a lot of that somehow, but I hope it is just a bit
harder to see nowadays. Real Jewish people love peace and are smart
people, hard working too, funny and witty.

So ... in order for this vision to come true, where there is just a
little war in the Zionist rebel state with Hamas and a bit on the
borders again, or even a bigger war but fairly easily won by the Zionist
State (against the whole world perhaps even, as some of the prophets
have said), they are essentially saying that the Zionist State is good
enough as it is, and that what they are doing is so incredibly important
that the Creator himself will protect this State and the way it is more
or less set up from the quite likely scenario of wars with the intention
of destroying the Zionist State by Empires in the area or from further
away, alliances of such Empires or even the entire world.

Is the Zionist State, what the Jewish people are doing now in the
Zionist State, is that so exceptional, so special and so important, that
it can inspire the entire world toward peace.

Yes, is what the Zionists say, if they believe the Zionist State will
survive with the help of the Creator (no less), any amount of war
against it. For what other reason would the Creator (no less) act in
such a massive way, for the current Zionist State, as to defeat the
entire world (which seems to be turning against Israel) ? The only
reason which I can see, is that the Creator has decided that the Zionist
State is capable of inspiring humanity to a lasting peace, because
humanity cannot survive their own technology with the amount of war and
evil they are used to and aren't stoping with yet.

Is the reason instead, that "Hashem loves the Jewish people", and
therefore will do that ? But why would He do that now, but did not do
that in the desert when the people refused to enter Eretz Yisroel (with
Moshe Rabbeinu). Why did he order everyone dead who doubted Him, why did
they die. Why did Hashem create the Nazi holocaust, why did they die.
Why did all the other Jewish people die, when Hashem has all the power
to both cause that to happen, or stop that from happening. What makes
the Zionist rebel state so much better than them, that the Zionist State
will live, where they died.

You see poor Jewish working people in the ghettos two centuries ago,
being attacked. How big where their crimes ? Not keeping Shabbos
correctly ? Scamming around here and there ? Maybe. How where they
dressed, where they respectful to each other in general ?

Now look at the Zionist Rebel State, people left and right in night
clubs, dressed how ? Shabbos ? Gay parades in Yerushalayim ? Is the
Knesset (Parliament) of Israel a gathering of the wise, the honest and
the caring, as it should be ? What is the music like ? Are people
helping each other left and right, to help each other out of poverty ?

I bet there is quite a lot of good happening too, but on the level of
the society as a whole ? Are they so much better than the Jewish people
in 1930s Germany, that Hashem will ride out for them and lay the world
to ashes so they can live out the next 30, 60, 100 years of their lives
the way they are living them now ?

It does not make sense, at least not to me. I see rather the reverse: if
they died, then so much more will many people in the Zionist rebel State
die, and also in America, where they seem to be quite similar. (I hope
the honorable, the humble, the good, all will survive it, of course.)

It does not make sense that the Zionist Rebel State will make it to
forever, with the help of heaven, the way it is going with it. How is
this Zionist state inspiring the whole world to peace ? That is the job
of the Jewish people (believe it or not, but it is so !). If they can do
it, then by all means, Hashem should protect that State at all cost !!!
It may the the only and last way that humanity can live, without
creating an unrelenting nightmare or even extinction for itself. We are
only at the very start of wars which are going to be nuclear wars - how
insane is this species, when will it end, how will it end ?!

I don't see it.

Rather what makes more sense to me, is more or less a variation of the
reverse. The Zionist State and the Jewish people in America will likely
suffer what others like them have suffered, which is massive amounts of
death, as well as assimilation, war and tyranny. The Zionist Rebel State
may very well be completely overrun by regional or further away powers,
who might conduct a massive population level killing campaign. Some of
these Nations are certainly primed with their religion to do just that.
Isn't the Creator in control, able to set up religions like that ? Did
your God set up the trap the way that it is set up, so that you have one
way to go: back to him, to the truth, and then live, but if you don't
... then the worst is ready to go, ready and waiting ...

 *

The debt is burning a hole in the society in general, on a global scale.
The destabilization makes the ruling classes nervous, even as they cause
it and it soothes them to know they are in control, and that they have
their plans ready. War is the usual solution, and we see it happening.
The destabilization is slowly occuring, like a big tower which is gently
pushed further and further beyond the straight up ... and then suddenly
the tower starts falling out of its own weight, faster and faster and
after a wait of years, of decades, of more than a lifetime, suddenly it
falls to the ground and shatters.

Like Bush jr. on the fallen towers on "9/11", and what did the criminal
proverbially have in his hand ? Now that the powers that be who sat in
this neat tower where suddenly without this facade, what did they do ?
They climbed on top of the rubble, and they held high a weapon, and the
weapon read: Tyranny. War and Tyranny. The weapon was the PATRIOT act,
long already prepared for the occasion. The war they soon unleashed on
the Middle East, and a potentially even greater war they started about
13 years later in Ukraine.

Their order falls down by their own doing, so that they come out as what
they really are: Tyrants, war profiteers, mass murderers, slavers,
criminals, bandits, thugs, pitiless abusers of mankind.

Hence the bow gets tensed, and Israel is just sitting there, small,
quite chaotic, lots of corruption too, doesn't know what to do really,
a Torah like a ruin. I think it will get hammered bad and will be
bleeding bad. Not like Hamas "October" bad, but like Nazo holocaust
times 7 bad, like genocide to the degree "how many Jews are left?!" bad,
like "all the Jews in this town where murdered, and in the next town,
all of the Jews where murdered". That bad. Even if Hashem makes the
Nations bleed a hundred fold, so that they know whom they where
fighting, I cannot see how the Zionist rebel State inspires humanity to
become good forever, so as to merrit the ultimate defense and victory by
the One who can do anything; but lets us make our own decisions.

Then ... when the Zionist Rebel State falls, it will have to come true
what the Prophets have said (or I hope so), that Israel gives birth
before she is in labor, Isaiah 66:8. The Redemption breaks out, even
before existing society has completely vanished into absolute chaos and
death. I hope it will be so, but I fear that for many people, their
Torah was too small, and therefore it will come too late for them. It is
all too easy to think: Israel will live, and therefore you personally
will be part of it, because it will all be allright in the end. Perhaps
it will be allright in the end for you, through some ways beyond this
world, but the way this may all come to pass, it may well be through a
river of blood ... unless Israel does Teshuvah sooner, and more can be
saved. It should be noted, that doing Teshuvah and that being
believable, it has to be believable that you will be a caring good
person, for all eternity, able to tow the line of the truth for your
Nation, and when necessary *against your Nation*, that you stand for
peace and justice and if necessary you will create that peace and
Justice on the spot ... and not just for a day, but as the habbit of
your entire future existence, forever.

If you lived a life of hedonism and selfishness, even added talking bad
about other people, not taking it narrow with family values, but then
one day before some huge Empire takes your lands where you live and you
will 99.9% sure be killed by them when they find you, and then you
suddenly do Teshuvah ? You suddenly want to do the Torah with all your
heart and soul ? Forever and ever you will be caring for people, never
rude again ? You may believe that yourself, or even make an effort for a
while, but where were you before ? For how long will you be on the path
of righteousness (so to say, heh), when the streets are easy again, and
you have no worries ? Will you stand there, will you come out of your
house, to deal with an injustice ? If you don't stand today, then how
believable is it that you stand for Justice and peace for all, when it
is really your own life you are pleading for, again.

Israel do Teshuvah now, and hopefully every last Jew can be saved. I do
not advice you to belief in the fairy tale that everything will be fine
for all the people who think they are Jewish or who live in America or
Eretz Yisroel. Even though things may seem somewhat stable (already
destabilized now in Eretz Yisroel, but not extremely), that was always
the case before the chaos and the wars start, or hit upon some land or
city. You have to start caring for the truth, and if you cared already,
you have to care a lot more. Do it to save your people, not yourself.
Try to save someone else, then maybe indirectly you will become worthy
of being saved as well, or at least you will die with a greater peace,
and that will be good.

The situation in the world may seem very calm (it looks on the survace
very calm here at least), but at the same time it is crazy tense and
worsening year on year. Try to help someone else, that is the best way
to help yourself (I guess), if you even need help. Helping someone else
is a good thing, everyone should be doing it. Then we become humans, and
we can live.

Don't live in the illusion that things will keep going the way they are.
The fundamentals are against that in the long term. It is just that
nobody really knows, except maybe very few or those who make that
decision, when it will exactly snap and how. The situation in the world
is already very tense now. Compare that to 2008 or so, when I started
writing to the Jewish people here and there. I always said, it is so
easy now, we have all the rights and time we need, luxuries, everything.
The situation was not tense, but I said already it would become worse
and worse. You wasted so much time. You Israel wasted already something
like 16 years or so, on my request to stop lying about the prosbul. You
may think that is a silly statement, but is it ?

Return to the Torah, when you can do so in a believable way for the sake
of your people, the world, others and yourself, rather than some kind of
last ditch cry for help because you are about to get killed. Life can
sometimes seem so easy, but when the severity hits, it can become so
unbearable. Don't underestimate that at the easy times, but prepare and
be good.

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