Israel claims to want to be redeemed ...

Hello 'Welcome Committee Moshiah',

Today I found your website. I feel obligated to write you, not because it
will likely serve any use at the moment, but I do not want to be blamed
by you or your people later for not giving you a chance to reject what
I am proposing and arguing (below and elsewhere), so that the guilt
of delaying the possible Redemption will be on you, and not on me. I
am sorry if this sounds strange and self serving, or you are already
tired of another "moshiach claimant". That is fine, you can put this
message in the spam immediately. I expect nothing, but I need to have
tried, that is all (for given reason). Just delete this message and save
ourselves the trouble. You don't care anyway, right ? It's all just a
shell game. You have been programmed to wait for "moshiach', and that's
just one of the hollow and meaningless rituals left over from the past,
and that's all. Have a great day, good bye. ;-)

It means nothing to me if you think what I propose is not true. Save
yourself the trouble and do not even bother a reply if you don't agree.

First things first: Hillel the Elder legislated the prosbul, which
pretends to cancel the 7th year debt cancellation in the Torah. This
is treason. Hillel may have tipped the scales with it, and caused the
exile. If you worship Hillel as Rabbis worship Rambam, just delete this
e-mail now. You can just call me an anti-semite in your mind if you like,
all good.

IF you lack the courage and determination to overthrow the prosbul and
overthrow a similar device created by Rambam/Maimonides called the "heter
iska", I don't see how you can be Redeemed. Rather, the curses section in
the Torah must come true again. 7 times worse than the Nazis. I speculate
95% of all of you will die. There may still be a number of years before
this happens, so perhaps you can still do somethnig about it. Repent
from the prosbul and the heter iska, repent from having listened to
traitors such as Hillel the Elder (a mirror image of Jeebus the Bastard,
the western idol), and repent from the heter iska and Rambam / Maimonides.

Other treasons are: the Lamp of Helena, this is Sun disk idolatry. It
is quite possible that not the prosbul, but the Sun disk idol, was the
breaking point which destroyed the 2nd Temple. I don't know, you'd have
to ask Hashem. How Serious this is, you can see in the so-called Temple
Institute, who remade the idol and wishes to put it on a 3rd Temple. They
want to dedicate the 3rd Temple to the Sun. Nobody in their right mind
needs to hear the babble around it, as why it wasn't idolatry. The
device reflected the sun, right from the inner building its gate. Case
closed. I suspect the Jewish people at the time where angry with HKB'H
for causing a famine, and when this Queen Helena brought some fruits to
relief the suffering, they decided to break with HKB'H and irritate him
with an idol on the 2nd Temple. Not long after, the current exile began.

So, in my view, now you know why you are in exile. If you lack the
courage to overthrow these treasons because you "want to fit in" or
whatever else such as a will to serve the rich and greedy above HKB'H,
the truth, the peace and justice, then now you know that you belong in
the exile. You create the exile around you. If you where to be put in
a Redeemed Israel, you would recreate the exile around you, by way of
stupidity (idolatry is stupidity, in my view), and greed (Hillel the
Elder and Rambam teach greed and law breaking). I think this is why
the Jewish people have been cursed by the Jeebus the Bastard religion
from the west, because this Jeebus is a mirror for Hillel the ELder
(the traitor). "Oh he is so friendly", but he was also lawless and law
breaking, law overthrowing. Just like Jeebus, crazy like Jeebus. HKB'H
helped you in this way, so that you would learn a hatred for this idol
and his lies, and perhaps you would understand that it is really Hillel
the Elder and later Rambam / Maimonides, who are the same.

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If you still read this, and agree with me: please accept my apologies
for writing a strange and seemingly rude e-mail. I have been going at
these topics since about 2008 or so. It gets frustrating, to deal with
the fraudulent aspects of Rabbinical Judaism, the failure to respond
by this people, and their refusal to correct themselves no matter how
obvious it is made to them.

I also propose this, which is my website: http://market.socialism.nl
Even if you don't agree with this right now, I appreciate it if you
downloaded it. It is all free. You never know, this might be it ? I also
do not know for a certainty, but I doubt things like this: why would
HKB'H hurt someone like I have been hurt, and how many people really
need to write down a program like this in the world ? You only need one
to do it. There is a lot more than just that thought, but there is a
problem. I don't agree with the 'moshiach' game. I feel it is cheating.

You need to want to be good and true on your own. Use your head, it is
not that difficult. How should an economy function (my topic of interest
is economics and war, because I feel poverty and war are the main causes
of unnecessary suffering in the world). If you think about things, or
even go to a decent University, it shouldn't take you long to realize
the land cannot be sold in perpetuity, but must be a right to all. Hence:
the Torah of Moshe Rabbeinu is TRUE. The Torah is science. the Torah is
great. This is how you should operate. This is how we move forward, and
deserve to have the power of this ever improving technology all around
us. Throwing stones became spears became intercontinental missiles with
dozens of nuclear bombs on them. This is a very serious issue. Humanity
needs to start behaving, or destroy themselves. Part of behaving as a
decent species: figure it out. Figure out how an economy should work,
and do it.

Instead what we see: idolatry to Hillel the Elder, Rambam and just
mindless activities which serve an ever smaller clique of psychos with
all the money in the world. If you do not want to use your heads on the
topics themselves, that's fine. Just suffer the coming periods of wars
and Tyrannies, hello on Earth, and hope that at the end of it there will
still be a few humans left to dig around for roots and able to make a
basic fire, before we all die out. It's not that serious ? I think it
could be a lot worse: the psychos of power want an ever lasting Tyranny,
in which they control the slaves with great technological powers. It
looks like they can actually do it, thanks to the stupidity of mankind. At
that point, total annihilation might be what the people ask for.

By figuring it out with your head, you proof that you care.

By not figuring it out with your head, you proof that you do not care.

See the point ? This is why I have problems with this 'moshiach' game. It
is like cheating. It is like giving solutions to people who fail to
focus on the problems, and deal with them head on. You want tricks,
you want miracles, and then someone will figure it all out for you,
and that should somehow be good enough.

Then again: who am I to make decisions on this Earth, and who am I to
argue the Torah of Moshe Rabbeinu, a book that is so great. If this is
what heaven wants with the Jewish people, then so be it. Run the game, run
the cheat sheet as it where, and see how it goes. You should know though,
that I propose my program purely rationally. You should think about
the program, and try to understand it. That which you both understand
and agree to, only that you should do. Anything else, you should not
do. First think and study. I suggest to be careful, if not very very,
very careful. I don't know how much time there still is to do careful
thinking, but well, since 2012 (when I basically finalized my program),
already another 12 years had passed, another 12 years wasted. You could
have used those years to think about a few things.

Perhaps this will be the fix to the fix: if the Prophets point to this
proposal, which you could then do without thinking and thus avoiding to
meet the challenge of this world, but it is part of the proposal to very
carefully think about it and only do what you comprehend / agree with,
then maybe it can all still work out in the end.

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This brings us to the issue of 'moshiach', and I found it funny how
many things you wrote which match me as a person. Now you probably think
"here we go again, anoher nutcase thinks he is moshiach", but I hope you
can also appreciate how things look from the other side. I also think:
"here we go again, mindless Jews who are lost in their idolatry to their
fake Sages, who don't even care one way or the other, not for the Torah,
not for what is a reasonable political/economic proposal". Sorry if you
sense some of my frustration over the years.

To dispel the obvious charge: in the system is given a system of State,
which includes a King Elect. You can elect your House of David there,
and give this individual a palace to live in, etc. I am not electable
to that position, thanks. I do not need your palace, and I do not need
your money either, and I also don't need your subservience either. I
look for honest people who want to live, who don't bow their heads to
anyone and certainly also not to me. I don't need it, I don't want it,
in fact I despise it. I'm just another guy, who happens to have had a lot
of time, perhaps a little too much, to do some thinking, and that's all.

I can list reasons why I seem to match the story in the Tanach about
'moshiach', because I read it and I thought: they describe my life here,
and what I want to do also. I was working on the project (see website,
the Constitution and all that), and I decided to check up on what the
enemies are doing, who want Tyranny and hell on Earth, the criminals
basically, hence I bought a Jesus bible book and a Quaran, because I
feared they where going to interfere with the program and bring out
their Tyrant and start killing everyone. Best be prepared, right ?

Well, after I sipped through those books a bit to get an idea, I bought
a Tanach. I was very impressed by it, and I knew it had a true and good
economy (my project is essentially about the economy). I was very happy to
have found such a great people: Israel. I even thought of converting. I
wanted to buy a Talmud, but I was scammed and the books never came. I
bought a Shulchan Aruch, and then I was shocked, because I discovered
your lies: prosbul, heter iska. Now I knew that you had betrayed the
Torah. Since then I try to get you - Israel - to stop lying about the
Torah, and do Teshuvah, return to your Torah. You simply don't care. In
any case, while reading I noticed that it was more or less describing
my life, when talking about this thing which is supposed to happen,
although it is quite cryptic.

I found it funny that I am born on 14th April 1974, 1:05 in the night
(AM), Netherlands, and that this is also "moshiach day" the 8th day of
Pesach 22 Nissan (but correct me if I'm wrong), and it is also Easter or
something in the Eastern church, and it is also Easter in the western
church. I couldn't say anything before, mind you, but now the program
is ready, and so I can say whatever I want.

I see how dumb the Nations are, and it is Israel who already did a correct
economic model at least on land distribution, and also on finance. While
idolatry is high in Israel, the Torah is still against Kingship (quite
to the contrary to what I sometimes hear). I have tried a lot with
some other Nations to argue with them, but it seems to me that Israel
will be the best if not only candidate to get serious with things, and
then lead by example. The Torah you can do, you can also do my program,
or you can even do both.

I will try to run through what you are writing, quote your text and
comment on it. 

Moshiah
 
This platform compares the prophecies about the ‘Messy-anic’ times
and the concept of the person who is referred to as the Moshiach or
Mashiakh (Hebrew: משיח‎), Messiah (Greek: μεσσίας), Mahdi
(Arabic: ٱلْـمَـهْـدِي‎) aka Emam Zāman (Farsi: امام
زمان), Maitreya (Sanskrit: मैत्रेय), Saoshyant (Avestan:
𐬯𐬀𐬊𐬳𐬌𐬌𐬀𐬧𐬝), Ram or Rama (Sanskrit: राम),
Kalki (Sanskrit: कल्कि), Babiyye (Farsi: بابیه‎; English:
Bábism), and Li Hong (Chinese: 李洪), and so on.
 
The main theme of the messianic times is widely acknowledged to be
the triumph of “light over darkness” and the “establishment of
justice.” Here are some other insights from Judeo-Chrislamic sources:

-> I think the Jeebus the Bastard religion is a total and complete
fraud. See "Ceasar's Messiah" on youtube. I think it is a curse upon
the Jewish people, who are guilty of having followed Hillel the Elder,
who overthrew the Torah. I hope we can end this fake religion forever. I
also hate it for personal reasons, since I was brought up in it, by the
way. The Islam is at least its own thing. There seems to be good in it
and truth, but it isn't working for us Dutch people. It is not meant
for us. Islam as well as the Jeebus the Bastard religion, both accuse
the Jewish people correctly for being greedy, and also the Jewish people
accuse themselves this way, which is also correct (the exile is caused
by greed and baseless hatred). I don't know much or anything about
Islam really, sorry. There is some kind of hidden Imam or something,
I have not much clue about it. 

[...]

Sources Final Redeemer, Smell and Judgment

The Judeo-Chrislamic sources also agree on another fundamental principle:
The final redeemer associates scent with the concepts of judgment and
justice. The Jewish authorities, which define smell as the sense of
Moshiah, indicate: “… he will judge by smell.”  Various Islamic
sources state: “The Mahdi .. will have a broad, clear (of hair) forehead
and a sharp nose and will fill the Earth with fairness and justice …
.” People often confuse the quality of his nose for its shape, using
terms like narrow, pointed, straight, aquiline, snub, or prominent.

-> I do have a bit of a sharpy nose (I'm sorry to say), and a bit of
a clear forehead I suppose (not sure what that means though). I once
read somewhere that the hand is bigger than the head, and this is kind
of true or roughly similar (I'm not a tailor). I hope you realize this
is all kind of awkward and weird. I propose logic about economics,
I prefer to talk about arguments and what we should do.

Sources The unWanted
 
It is crucial to note that Judeo-Chrislamic sources prophesied that the
entire world would be baffled and have a tough time believing that this
person should be their redeemer. Rabbi Shneur Zalman of Liadi, one of the
greatest Jewish mystics and founder of Chabad, was asked: When will the
redeemer finally come? The Alter Rebbe lowered his eyes to the ground
and said softly: “But how can he come? The redeemer that everyone
wants isn’t coming, and the redeemer that is coming, nobody wants.”

-> This already became true. You don't want to be rebuked, you don't
want to hear that your Hillel and Rambam are deceivers and liars. You
don't want to stop serving the rich. You just go back to your Rabbis,
fit in with the community, and await the next round of curses, 7 times
worse than the last, and after it, you plan on doing it all over again,
to the bitter end. Right ? Since 2008 or so, I already try to talk sense
to you (you, Israel) about the prosbul. Almost never a reply, the less
than a hand full of replies I ever received, all lead to nothing. You
don't want to hear what I say.

You want a 'moshiach, who tells you how good you are.  You reject someone
who tells you what you need to do better.

At this point you have rejected my proposal for many years, something like
15 years or so. Incidentally during the time I of course also did other
things, and I often try to compute (as I call it) what the evil ruling
class will do. I said many times it will become World War 3 with Russia,
and now many people may have forgotten, but back then they thought nothing
special about Russia and certainly didn't expect war. I said already: it
will be war with Russia, because there is nobody else to have a war with,
and they need a war because they are destroying the economy with their
debt games and money printing. They will also likely add China to Russia,
because otherwise Russia wouldn't be strong enough and not enough people
will die. I have said, on the record this is, impossible to delete on
Usenet, that I think World War 3 will start between 2018-2023. I had a
bet with my brother (but this was never published so you can ignore it),
that World War 3 will start before 2022 / 2 / 2, 22:22:22 (2nd Februari
2022, 22:22:22 hours), and this was long before the Obama Nazi coup in
Kiev. Russia attacked roughly in those days. This is a counter-offensive,
mind you, against the American conquest of Ukraine in 2014 by way of a
bloody coup, but that's another story.

You see that what I said came true. I also said things about what is still
the future, and you can check them later if you want. I think they will
likely crash the economy under Biden, bring Trump in as a Fascist, run
World War 3 a nuclear global war, and then possibly bring Obama out as
a UN boss to unite the world in peace & love, but all fake of course. I
don't say it has to go like that, but this is how the enemy is probably
planning their operations for a fixed and established global Tyranny. You
should read United Nations Declaration of Human Rights article 29 section
3, by the way. If you do not understand that this article implies total
Tyranny, I guess there is no more hope.

Source The unAppreciated
 
Based on various Biblical examples, Rabbi Mendel Kessin, who also holds
a Ph.D. in psychology, suggested in his 2016 lecture that “A messianic
figure is always despised.” Rabbi Kessin pointed out Joseph, who was
imprisoned; Moses, who had to run away from Egypt; and King David, who was
despised many times in his lifetime. “Many Messianic figures, they come
out of nowhere!” Rabbi further claimed everyone expects the Messiah to
be this incredible, scholarly, righteous and great personality. “Yeah,
eventually he will be, but he’s the guy that you don’t even look at
twice. That’s who the Moshiah is.”

-> I have been the one put down, it was very painful. In class I was
always the hated one, for 12 years. Then when I broke, they lied about
me in hospital and blamed me, [...]

The unEarthly Various prophecies claim that
 
the final redeemer is “arriving on the cloud.” This misunderstood
term led to belief in a supernatural event. Yet, Maimonides (Rambam),
in Mishneh Torah, Kings and Wars 12:1, writes that the messianic era
will not contain any paranormal phenomena. However, another messianic
prediction suggests that ‘adults will learn from the youth’ in
that era. Indeed, nowadays, any teenager could clarify that “the
cloud” refers to resources such as information or services from a
website over the internet available to remote users worldwide. The term
“cloud” also clarifies another prophecy: Redeemer’s words will be
communicated “from one end of the world to the other.” Nonetheless,
other prophecies count that the Moshiah “will be poor” and “will
ride upon a donkey,” which informs on his financial situation and the
speed of his progress, namely, slow.

-> I am basically at the economic minimum in the Netherlands, but I think
this is actually quite good still. I don't think of myself as poor. I
have no job because I am hurting too much, so I am on welfare. While
I am recovering from incredible mental stress / pain (indescribable),
this recovery is unbelievably slow, like a few percent or less per
year. Very steady and crazy slow.

I don't have a donkey, sorry. I do ride my racing bike though, a lot. I
am trying to join the races, and did a few already. I am talking about
a sport of which the highest level is the Tour de France. I do not ride
my bike out of some delusion about moshiach. I don't care, that's your
game. I saw the world will go to garbage, and I started to train for
war. During the corona fake pandemic I couldn't do my walk training, and
I saw my 20 year old bicycle in the shed again. [...]

According to Isaiah 60:22, God, however, promises “to hasten”
 
(Akhishena; אחישנה) suddenly Moshiah’s progress “at its
time” (Beita; בעתה), meaning at a ‘specific time’. We might
speculate this ‘specified time’ based on the name of ADaM (אדם),
which stands for Adam – David – Moshiah according to the Jewish
tradition. As David was at the midpoint, we can double the respective
dates: David’s birthday in the Hebrew calendar, 2854 X 2 = 5708
(1948 Gregorian calendar), represents the rebirth of Israel (see also
Ets HaShalom). At the same time, II Samuel 5:4-5 tells us that David
started his reign over the entire Israel at the age of 37.5; therefore,
(2854 + 37.5) X 2 = 5783. However, based on DVYD’s calculation, the
cosmic conception starts on 2023-07-26 (Tisha B’Av 5873), and the
“Birth Pangs of the Messianic Era” will hopefully end after the last
day of Passover, by 2024-05-01, which is Global Labor Day.

-> I have tried to work on everything as fast as humanly possible. Always
with this "fast fast fast" and "now now now" in mind. Rambam / Maimonides,
the traitor, also lied to you about this, claiming that 'moshiach' will be
'tarrying'. You need to stop with this liar Rambam. Stop your idolatry,
thanks. Yes, it is idolatry. What is the source for 'moshiach tarrying'
? You have the Torah. If Moshe Rabbeinu wanted to give you "thirteen
principles of faith", he would have had no problem writing it down.

Rambam goes into the garbage.

Hillel the Elder goes into the garbage.

The Lamp of Helena goes into the garbage.

This is what you should do right away, if you have any sense, knowledge
of the Torah, and fear of heaven.

I don't discuss the prosbul or heter iska now in depth, because of how
deeply offensive and what a joke it all really is, but also because this
insanely long post would get 10 more pages. I have discussed the prosbul
probably hundreds of times elsewhere. 

The unOrthodox
 
Rabbi Shneur Zalman of Liadi stated that the redeemer is one of the
Misnagdim (Opponents of the ‘religious’ people). The “anointed
one” will probably be an ‘annoying one’ to most religious
leaders. Many corrupt clerics will probably fight him for fear of
losing their power or the interest group they serve. The Creator’s
ultimate desire is our harmony, and olfactory-based gauging enables
transparent, personalized achievement of this goal, as per the mystical
teachings. Faith leaders must align their teachings with the Creator’s
ultimate will. Instead of placing blind trust, individuals can analyze
the leader’s guidance.

-> Yes, that is me. I oppose religions usually and by nature. The
idolatry, the craziness, and their lack of support and action when we need
to do something for exploited people or a war, etc. However, keep in mind
I was brought up in the Jeebus the Bastard fake religion. I do respect
the Torah a lot, now that I understand economics better, and I can see
how good it is. I used to curse at 'god' a lot, but I changed that, out
of respect for the work of Moshe Rabbeinu and all the great prophets, etc.

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Also check out, by the way: dani18.com. They also warn you to get out
of the USA asap.

Have a great day.

Jos

I am sorry for writing this email. I hope you can forgive me. ;-)

[Added on Usenet. I'm sorry to say, but the amount of times the things
said about 'moshiach' match me, is extensive and it just keeps on
coming. There is also the issue that nobody else does anything, and the
time to have had it done is already over, because we seem to be past the
year 6 000. I apologize that you, Israel, may have to deal with me in
this case. On the other hand, you don't know me, and maybe I'm not so
bad as you thought I am. I also note, you don't have to deal we me,
because everything is about logic first, and everything else doesn't
matter. You don't have to care or deal with me at all. It is like the
Torah I guess: a written law, you can read it yourself, and understand
it. It is not that difficult, at all. An honest child can probably
understand most and the most important parts of it without much trouble.

I find it funny that this Usenet group is such a 'shit hole' (excuse my
bad words), but this is precisely the reason I can post here. If Rabbis
ruled this place, I would have been banned ages ago, as they did throw
me out of the 'moderated' group also "to protect their children", yet
those children will likely soon die violently in the 2nd holocaust, also
thanks to these people who refused to listen and do. When it has all
happened, you will eventually understand. You caused your own deaths.
Nobody is tarrying, except you. Nobody is being a fool here on teh side
of the good, but you are a fool, Israel. I think you will understand too
late, when most of you are dead. I tried to warn you, and showed you a
way out, but you thought without thinking that you knew better. I guess,
you thought too highly of yourselve, and this pride made you look down
on others including me, and also you look down on Moshe Rabbeinu,
raising a traitor in Egypt like Maimonides to his stature and great
accomplishments. You don't want to hear this, because of your pride. As
the "autistst" said: try to be humble. You need to humble yourselves, to
your God that is (obviously), because only when humble enough are you in
a state to accept a correction, a rebuke. You have to non-stop practice
being humble, and look for cues and ideas which correct your behavior.
Then you may find this Redemption of yours, and your 'moshiach', whoever
it is. You think it is all about this 'redeemer', but this is false. It
is all about the truth. The redeemer is one who cares about the truth, and
if you did that, you would be the redeemer yourself already.

I don't understand why you are in love with lies like the prosbul,
but you know full well that you have become a liar because of it. You
can't worm yourself out of that one. It is too blatant, it is an open
rebellion, and to say it isn't, you only add lies to your lies, and make
it even worse. Such a great people, following such a pathetic lie. Why
do you lower yourself this way. Do you want to be housepets in the world
to come, untrustworthy to make your own decisions ? Are you that lost,
like a cat reading the Torah, clearly seeing little else but some weird
smelling object, which has little other use than to sharpen your nails
on ? Does it upset you to read this ? If so, you have sided with the
wrong people, and your pride makes you unable to say something like
"yes, it is horrible how THEY have been lying." If this angers you, that
is probably a sign that you are not worthy to be redeemed right now.
Whom did it anger to talk bad about Stalin in his day, the ones who
where with the Tyrant, or the ones who where against. Who would feel
insulted. You see ? You have sided with the enemies of Moshe Rabbeinu.
You have and will pay the price, until you do Teshuvah. If not, humanity
probably just entirely fails, and the price of that will likely be worse
for everyone, including you. Your God is helping you, by punishing you,
basically giving you the only chance of life you have.]

... typing like a maniac ...

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Correction:
In a recently posted comment, the word 'from' regarding a loan, should
have been the other way around. It was about the creditor, not debtor.