title: Beit Din Tzedek MANIFESTO Psak Din Against Heretic Manis Friedman
source: BeEzrat HaShem Learn with Lerner
link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miQfcdnYDc0 Comment.
Hello. I seem to have the fearfull job of making the first comment,
sorry. You did the right thing. It is incomprehensible how M.Friedman can
go on, absolutely astonishing. Chabad ?! How ?! I have also seen many a
rambling by the person in question. It makes no sense, it is not logical
what he says, it is the opposite of the Torah ! A random gentile may have
more Torah than he ! To hell to see your friends ?!?! Heaven is boring
?! Israel creates God ? It sounds like the rantings of a criminal. He says
"we all sin" and he laughs, as if it is fun, with small children there,
who have no defense because of their young age.
For the sake of courage and the Torah, I would like to offer you also
some thoughts however, of where it seems to me that you could be closer
to the Torah. Who am I to say ? Nobody, but it is always good to talk
about the Torah, is it not. You wrote that the 13 principles of faith
(well known Rambam) are the _foundation_ of the entire Torah. Why did you
write this. The Torah was there a long time ago, the 5 books of Moshe
Rabbeinu, the Prophets, and the Psalms (Tehilin). The greatest age of
the Torah, first with Moshe Rabbeinu, then Jehoshua, then others and the
1st Temple, it was all without Rambam and his so-called principles of
faith. Are we able to reduce the Torah, the 5 books of Moshe Rabbeinu,
to 13 principles ? Are we able to take these 13 principles, and compute
from them the entire Torah ? I just read the 13 principles again. What
if I said: the Shabbos is among the foundation of the entire Torah ? If
I said: to respect your mother and father, is among the foundation of
the entire Torah ? All the "10 words" are the foundation of the Torah
? If I said "Do not steal" is the foundation of the entire Torah ? Why
not ? Why that, why not this, why not something else ? Why the reduction
? HKB'H said: If you keep _all_ my commandments (Deut. 28:1). The Torah
is the Torah, it is quite long, but not too long. Why the need to reduce
it, if we are not wise enough to compute from a small amount of Torah,
the rest of the Torah, as indeed Hillel the Elder was also unable to do.
This then is what worries me, that you also are doing an amount of
'philosophy' with an amount of randomness to it. The Torah - which
is quite the work ! impressive and very good ! - can now be condensed
into 13 principles, and we then turn it around and say: it all came from
these principles ? Yet we cannot compute that in fact, I think nobody can
compute the Torah from the 13 principles of faith. How do you compute the
Shabbos, from the 13 principles of faith, or the laws of family purity,
or the laws of land ownership ?
Rambam himself also issues an amount of philosophy which seems to break
the Torah, with his _heter iska._ Rent seeking is forbidden. Hillel
the Elder argued the prozbul, but this cannot be, and he is the one (or
his house) who is famous for saying: the entire Torah is to treat your
neighbor as yourself, or to be exact: _What is hateful to you, do not do
to your neighbor. The rest is commentary._ Commentary ?! Who can compute
the sacrifices for the Temple from this one statement ? He has reduced the
entire Torah, to one principle, and then says that it all flows from this
principle. Isn't that an attempt at philosophy, perhaps not dissimilar
(although not even close to as bizarre) as that of M.Friedman ? I could
already see a hole in this principle, this attempt at philosophical
reduction: what if I wouldn't mind it because I was so proud and rough,
that my neighbor came to me to fight me over a piece of land ? Can I
then do the same to another ? Isn't such the reverse morality of Amalek,
the morality of criminals (I mean the example I gave), and then this
principle already falls apart. Also, how about the positive rules, like
I should give a charitable loan without interest and to be nullified in
the 7th year to the poor.
So what I see is this: persons who have also undermined the Torah, include
(and I guess you won't like this): Hillel the Elder (but remember that
after the Redemption, the rulings where supposed to go over to the house
of Shammai, right?), because he argued pseudo logical philosophy (bad
quality philosophy that is), to argue his prozbul, and he _also_ did
this Torah reductionism even to just one statement. The very statement
he chose, is not even in the Torah at all ! It may be of foreign origin
? I suspect it is. Then Rambam, he made the _heter iska_ and this device
allows rent seeking on loans from another Jew, and this is just not
allowed. The money is meant for another purpose. No amount of strange
rituals make this right, and this Rambam also, he may have done strange
philosophy of reducing the Torah to just 13 principles. It's random,
it isn't true, it isn't covering the goodness and the vastness of the
Torah of Moshe Rabbeinu, may his memory be blessed forever, and the
Redemption come speedily, in your days.
I hope that you have just kicked off the Redemption, with your strong
stance for the Torah and rejecting one who seemed to be part of your own
(Rabbis, and this of Chabad even). I wish you would dig even deeper:
beyond Rambam and to return to interest free loans completely, and then
even deeper: beyond Hillel the Elder and hit prozbul, and then hopefully
even deeper, to restore the jubilee on land, and restore other Torah laws
such as a complete Shabbos - rest until the night sleep, a true day of
rest for your people. I'm sorry I wanted to write this, I hope it does not
offend you. I merely suggest it as an argument, a talk on the Torah. If
you do not agree, then so be it. If you realize you should or could
undo problems which may have prevented the Redemption all this time, or
helped cause it, then it would be wrong for me to not post this message,
and become guilty that way. I hope you are not angry, have a good day. Be
strong, you are absolutely right of course, and you know it (on the case
of M.F.). Wow, what a case ! "To hell to be with your friends !" Lol,
so absurd. Good days to all of you, I am sorry I took your time away.
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Rambam's 13 principles of faith are arbitrary & too limited