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Date : 08. Sep 2024, 10:46:07
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Rabbinical excuses to avoid Torah never end: no Jubilee because ...
(excuse number 2) <insert whiney voice> "We don't know when to do it
exactly ...". Pathetic, shameful, and destructive. In the below we see
that this is happening: someone who seems to follow "the Rabbis",
pretends that the Jubilee does not have to be followed, because they
don't know when, even though claiming the Jubilee should be instated.

Presumable Youtube sencorship games prevented me to read all the replies
a person had written (multiple replies now appeared to have been written
already, but remained hidden until now).

I wrote:
 @[...]  Thank you for your reply. Your reply was rude, I tell you
 that so that you can work on that. (...)

@[...] wrote:
@josboersema1352  when do we start and end the Yoval? Hmmm? We need
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
moshiach to say. So that's why the rabbonim -- much wiser than you --
suspended it so that we didn't accidentally do it in the wrong time. I'm
all for the Yoval being reinstituted. It's not ready yet. So we need
to study to figure out when the first known Yoval to be observed took
place. From there we may POSSIBLY be able to figure it out, otherwise
it can ONLY come from נבוה
@[...] wrote:
@josboersema1352  this isn't our sin, this is the sin of the first
generation not to take it seriously which led us to forget.

@[...] wrote:
@josboersema1352  it is very common in Judaism for the unlearned to make
a face-value assessment before they even understand the Kabbalah.
(...)

@[...] wrote:
@josboersema1352  to forego a blessing is much better than to receive
a curse...any Jew would know that. You're not a Jew so...why aren't
you busy learning your own religion? Oh that's right...your soul
craves truth.

@josboersema1352 wrote:
@[...]  Hello, thanks for you reply again. Since you seem to draw into
 question my knowledge or lack thereof, all I can tell you is that
(...)

Reply to this absurd argument of pretending they need a date for the
Jubilee. The point of the Jubilee is to make sure people have their
right to land honored. If it has been more than 50 years since the last
Jubilee, then the obvious solution is to do it right away, so as not to
make it even worse than it already is.

Does Jehoshua ben Nun wait for a specific constellation of the stars,
the moon and the planets, to then kick off the first Jubilee at a
special moment after they conquered the land ? This is not what I read
in the Torah. They just do it, when they are done with conquering the
land.

It is like talking to children. "I don't want to do the dishes!" Parent:
"But you are 16 years old now and you need to learn to do your own
household, and you haven't done anything in the house all week." Child:
"No I don't want to do the dishes! I couldn't find my socks this morning
either, and now we are out of crisps too!". Does it even need to make
sense ? No, it's just trash talk, so they can ruin the Nation and serve
the rich, greedy and immoral. "You said I should do the dishes at 7
O'clock, and now it is 7:10 O'clock, therefore I can't do the dishes
anymore, it is too late!". Ridilous. Poor Moshe Rabbeinu, having had to
deal with this kind of people.

No Redemption is possible with this kind of foolishness.

 *

@[...]  54 replies now ? Never seen this before. I also did not see two
of your replies, the first starting with: _"when do we start and end
the Yoval? Hmmm?"_ Youtube censorship is a serious problem. How can I
debate someone, if I don't see half of their replies.

In any case: I do not accept your reason, whatsoever. It is just another
trick in the box of lies by the Rabbis, to overthrow the economic Torah. I
suspect the Rabbis are being funded by the rich greedy and immoral to
such a degree, the Rabbis throw out the Torah to keep the money coming
in. That is the only reasonable explanation I see for these lies. If
you don't know a good date for a new Jubilee, then make a best guess,
or even better: do it immediately, do it *today.*

The Rabbis have no fear of God, and no respect for the Torah. I think
nobody should listen to them anymore. When the next round of punishment
happens, 7 times worse than the Nazis, then you will know how bad and
unacceptable it is. If 'moshiach' finally comes to the few who survive,
and the Rabbis where blocking the truth like they are blocking the
Jubilee, then perhaps Israel will perhaps finally free themselves of
the Rabbinical traitors to the Torah. The Rabbis are a diverse group of
course, some might have fought against these lies for what they are worth,
although it seems doubtful you could do that and remain within any sort
of mainstream Rabbinical authority as recognized by that system. You
would be calling Rambam what he is: a liar, a fraud, a traitor and a
deceiver. This will not go well with the other fakers of the Torah.

I use strong language, so that maybe a Jew here or there knows it is
serious, and that another round of punishment is coming. It should be 7
times worse than the Nazis, because time is up. Look at the technology
today, it is no longer the same kinds of wars, the same kinds of Tyranny,
or even the same kinds of pogroms and anti-semitism. Tools make action
more effective, also to the negative. The Empire is now not merely
Germany and what they conquered, it is a global Empire (see for example
the United Nations, a USA vassal control system). Remember: "Germany,
home away from home", remember that. Then you thought you where safe
in the USA. You are not. You are not safe anywhere, if you are a law
breaking Jew - or at least this is what the Torah says. I merely compute
your own Torah to you (you, Israel).

Come back to the Torah, stop lying about it, also stop lying about it
so that the few who want to "do and hear" are not confused by you, and
who knows what will happen. For the gentiles, it is the same, but they
are so much more confused. Israel has to give the example, but they do
not. You have been warned, and shown a way out. If you do not listen,
what will happen is on your own account. There is nothing more to say.

Stop finding excuses not to do the Torah. Find reasons to come to the
truth, Peace and Justice.

 *

End quote reply (I don't see it back on youtube, they may have deleted
it). There is nothing more to say. There is nothing more to say. The
message has been delivered. I feel well and good about that.  No Teshuva
before the great suffering is likely going to come, exactly what I
expected from both Jews and gentiles.

(I apologize for moving this discussion here, but I want Israel to know
how they where behaving before the next round of punishment, so that
they know they are guilty and that everything had been done to save them
by having them realize what they needed to or could do. Youtube/Google
cannot be trusted for anything. Have a good life. Bye Bye.)
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